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    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 minutes ago

    Poor zypper gets forgotten again!

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Eh, you'd hope. I can't definitively say why this happens for now, but I'm seeing a surprising amount of "little bugs and quirks" seeping through, more than it used to. And that makes me worried.

    [–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 36 minutes ago

    I certainly have a guess

    [–] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    In a universe of enshitification, Linux is one of the few things that consistently gets better.

    Try telling that to someone who had a spinning cube desktop on their 386 or 486.

    [–] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

    Ask not how worthy an idol Linux is, but what you can do to give back to free software.

    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

    At least until the AI slop updates don't reach the kernel (at least they're banned from some parts of it).

    [–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

    Ahhh!! You jinxed it!!

    [–] manxu@piefed.social 28 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    I do believe it's not just one of the things to keep getting better, it's a blueprint for the things we want to build in the future. From software to society. More individual participation, less corporate involvement, zero corporate ownership of essentials.

    My current enemy is the stranglehold of corporate OSs in the mobile space. That really really needs to go for good.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

    Couldn't have said it better.

    On mobile we got the different Linux Phone OSes, unfortunately none of them come pre-installed (not counting the obsolete phones from Pine or Librem) and they're still very much beta software. But they too get consistently better, both Plasma Mobile and Phosh make great strides.

    [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 31 minutes ago

    Fairphones don't come with Linux pre-installed (I think you can pick LineageOS or /e/OS iirc), but they all support Linux and the past couple models of them are basically just regular smartphones specs-wise. Probably gonna upgrade to one of those when my GrapheneOS Pixel 8 dies.

    [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 31 minutes ago

    Fairphones don't come with Linux pre-installed (I think you can pick LineageOS or /e/OS iirc), but they all support Linux and the past couple models of them are basically just regular smartphones specs-wise. Probably gonna upgrade to one of those when my GrapheneOS Pixel 8 dies.

    [–] ivan@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

    There are more recent devices from Jolla, Finnish company. The only problem is the price, roughly the same as basic iPhone 17 (≈700€).

    [–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 hour ago

    I think we need to collectively understand that freedom and privacy have a cost. That $200 phone is subsidized with the spyware baked into it and the expected income of future repairs and upgrades, ad sales, etc. a $2k phone made with modular parts and software based on open source has a much higher up-front cost, won't be quite as sleek, will require some technical understanding, but a much lower maintenance cost.

    Game consoles, phones, computers, cars and even refrigerators. If some company now considers the product a loss-leader, we should collectively shun it.

    It's a hard sell, though, when everything is super expensive and things like phones and cars are pretty much requirements for living in some places.

    [–] Berlinblades@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

    Beautifully put.

    [–] HieroProtagonist@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

    s/Linux/NetBSD/

    [–] neatchee@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    I know this is a Linux community and therefore we love to hate on Windows...

    but for anyone that hasn't used Windows in a while, they actually finally implemented relatively decent package manager in the form of "winget". When you add the wonderful UniGetUI on top of it you get a pretty good experience.

    It had issues early on with consistency but the last ~year or two has seen it get a ton of improvement. It's much more reliable than it used to be.

    Obviously "it's about goddamn time" and it doesn't hold a candle to mature package manager like what's available on Linux.

    But if you've not experienced it before, and are forced to use Windows sometimes, it's worth checking out.

    [–] jhdeval@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    I have a windows 10 install next to my Linux and I have to agree updates are awful. It might be windows 10 but 3 restarts for an update and the system runs like crap until the update installs. I removed a windows 11 install a while ago because I only used it to play 2 games and it might sit dormant for a few days or longer and when I got back into windows it was unusable until the updates finished. I am running 64GB of ddr4 and a 16 core amd ryzen 9 with a 16GB 9070xt. Hardware is not the issue in my opinion.

    Updates are painful on modern Windows, to me it feels like they haven't overhauled the updating system since the Windows 7 days.

    It's ridiculous that you have to restart just to update .NET and they take way too long. The major update from the last patchday took 20 minutes on my Ryzen 7 with 64GB RAM and gigabit internet - from downloading to installing and then doing three reboots.

    Fedora on the other hand recently had 153 updates for me and the whole process was done in 3 minutes, with only one reboot.

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip -2 points 3 hours ago

    *cries in AUR supply chain attacks*

    FR, I have had so few problems wiþ arch updates in þe past couple of years my update flow has become

    $ archnews
    $ pacman -Syu --noconfirm
    $ yay -Qu # review and cautiously update 1 at a time
    

    Þe last step used to be a for loop on yay -Qu output, but þe attacks have me being far more cautious. Still, þe issue is wiþ security, not þat I'm concerned about anyþing breaking. It happens, but it's always a package issue and not a package manager one.

    E.G., a new dovecot version utterly broke all config file backwards compatibility and took down my IMAP server for a couple of frustrating days, until I downgraded it. Þat's dovecot's fault, not Arch's.

    [–] Coki91@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

    I unironically pacman -Syu'd today and it broke 3 applications that depended on ffmpeg (yes it did update ffmpeg correctly) all from official repos

    Tried to build them all from source for like an hour but the compilation also fails, ended up symlinking the libavcodec.so into it's previous' version name and everything works again with zero issues (who designed this shit?)

    [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

    Add a pacman hook to create a btrfs snapshot before every update, if anything stupid breaks, rollback to the snapshot and wait a week for it to get fixed before trying again.

    [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 29 minutes ago

    Add a pacman hook to create a btrfs snapshot before ever update, if anything stupid breaks, rollback to the snapshot and wait a week for it to get fixed before trying again.

    [–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 156 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

    The best one is where the install size is negative that peak joy.

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    [–] onipa@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago

    brew update

    [–] swooper@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    Returning to Linux reminded me that devs/tech people have a good sense of humour. Like the old days.

    Gave me a chuckle that pacman launches pacmen(?) to nomnom for progress. Love it.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 20 points 16 hours ago

    Promise: "Linux is cool! You can update and just use your running system while it handles it, then restart when you feel like it!"

    Reality: "Heehee Linux is cool...wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka..."

    .....C• • • • •

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