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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 120 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I really hope there's a class action over this. Their software breaking your hardware isn't a failure of the device and should be a recall instead of a warranty repair.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lenovo has been absolute trash for a while now. They took the ThinkPad brand and destroyed any reputation it may have had, I'm not surprised by this at all.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

What's left? I'm still rocking the same thinkpad since 2015 but it's really struggling these days (almost time for Linux)

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Remember when Lenovo pre-installed spyware on every laptop for years? Dell did the same thing. These “tech” companies are actively detrimental to technology as a concept.

To Dell, Lenovo, HP, any sign of technological progress is taken as an opportunity to cheat and steal.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Lets not forget that in doing so, a self-signed root HTTPS cert was put into the windows store creating a man in the middle for ALL https connections.

When a user visits a web site, the software intercepted the connection, created a fake cert on the fly for that domain and signed itself with a private key.

WORSE! The private key was the same across ALL laptops and extracting the keys were trivial, so an attacker could own them all.

Lenovo: go fuck yourself.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You never know, they might step up. Reports like these in early stages are tough, because the one individual reddit user who was given a quote could have reported the issue before Lenovo can determine if it really is thr BIOS update.

My guess is, in two weeks or so they make good for affected users.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, they might. And everyone will forget about it again.

But they tried to get away with this bullshit, and that defines who they are, not what they back down to.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

tried to get away with

While this a likely scenario, it's also unproven. The rep that one person contacted may have had no idea what was going on.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Don't stop talking about it until they cave

[–] brem@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Checks notes

  1. DO NOT update anything unless completely necessary

^Oh, that's rule no. 2

[–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The issue is Windows 11 which does BIOS updates as a part of it's Windows Update service

[–] ReignOfTerror@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

On devices where I'm forced to use Windows, I ALWAYS set my network as metered so it won't download any updates.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have one of these. Ive been manually shutting it down because it wants to update, I never update. But evenutally, the machine just pushes it through anyway on start.

I swear to gawd if it breaks my legion I will be pissed. It's the most expensive single item I own.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Have you considered installing Steam OS?

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I could probaby find install instructions, and do this. However, It's was my husband's purchase, and he doesnt want me to fuck with it.

I recently gave an honest go at intalling linux on an old chrombook, that project sits unfinished, so, I get it lol.

It can usually go awhile without updating before it pushes it through, I am hoping, hoping, they patch the issue before then I guess.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Perfectly understandable. Putting Linux on any kind of OEM device can be a bit of a hassle. I've had the best experience with PCs I built myself, not things with custom components, weird drivers and locked down nonsense.

[–] D06M4@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Prevention: blocking Windows Update.
Solution: rolling back to a previous BIOS version.

Too bad most people who purchased a Legion Go won't know how to do any of that.

This article has a bit more on the matter.

Seems people with a Linux distro avoided the whole ordeal. Good for them. 🫶

[–] artyom@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I bet it didn't affect SteamOS versions...

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe. I know someone who wiped their Legion clean and installed an Arch-based OS and still had the BIOS-brick issue. No idea if they managed to fix it themselves yet but it’s not purely a Windows problem.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 37 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah BIOS use happens at startup before the OS starts getting involved. While it's potentially possible that the bug was only in the windows updater, it's equally possible that it's present in both, or just Linux. Any OS is equally as able to install a faulty BIOS update.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How? Did they use fwupd? It's also not integrated into some kind of auto-update on Arch (unlike Fedora for example).

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

But I'm pretty sure lvfs has legion firmware.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

Installing SteamOS onto my OG Legion Go was the best idea.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember when Lenovo got caught putting a rootkit in their bios? That should have been the end of anyone ever buying from them.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't know about this how is it not bigger news!?

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

Because no corporations want you to start thinking about your privacy... Because once you start pulling on that thread...

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I brought that up to IT before, people forget so easily

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Barely anyone remembers Sony shipping rootkits on their music CDs as well.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lenovo enshittified the same route as Toyota.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Remember them pre-installing superfish? Pushing ads into the browser, compromising HTTPS by adding their own root certificate, and it was all kept in the bios so even a wipe of the OS wasnt going to fix it.

Or their software in the bios that pulled in lenovoo software before windows started?

Or all the CVE's their bios had?

And then there is all the feedback software that they added that ran silently in the background.

I am not sure they enshitified or just simply always have been shit.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

There's a "Computer-sabotage law in Germany, just sayin.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

These things don't update the BIOS automatically do they?

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No idea but I know Windows does. A Fx505DT laptop I had bricked itself with a windows-triggered bios update. Warranty covered it but I went a month without a laptop.

[–] plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've been on Linux since 2014 when a windows update bricked my Thinkpad bios

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is that an 11 thing? I'm still on 10, and never heard of the OS itself updating a BIOS.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

It depends on the vendor. Some vendors push bios through Windows update service. Dell Lenovo and HP all do this pretty regularly.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, happened on W10 not 11.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure about the hand held but the corporate lenovo I was given autoupdates everything untile I went through and uninstalled the lenovo software center

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Handy rule to follow in the future, If it works, don't fuck with it.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about security updates? Those kinda work right up until they crucially don't.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Don't make me tap the sign.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago
[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder how regular users even get to know there's a bios update. Were they nudged by win11 downloading it for them? Did they have any agency in the process?