People have lost their fuckin minds if they think China is less evil than 5 or 10 years ago.
this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2026
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I don't think many people are saying that. It's the heel-turn by the USA that causes them to prefer China lately.
As a Canadian, I personally agree that my stance on China has become more favourable because of the shift in perspective that the USA currently offers. Not because they've suddenly stopped imprisoning Uyghurs for existing.
Name a country China has bombed or invaded unprovoked.
India like hundreds of times.
As somebody already mentioned, Tibet.
They've also destroyed multiple vessels including civilian ships near the Philippines.
The provided armaments to Iran which ended up in the hands of Hamas leading up to the October 7th music festival attack, which sparked the flames for the ongoing genocide. Iran also used those weapons on their own civillians earlier this year resulting in between 6k and 40k civillian casualties depending on your source which is actually higher than the casualties for the ongoing war with the USA (which can also somewhat be attributed to China due to the afforementioned hostilities with Israel (and China literally aided in Trump's reelection)). They're also the source of weapons for the Houthis and Lebanon.
In Asia they are the military backers of North Korea, who actively threatens to destroy Japan. In the past they've armed factions who committed coups in Vietnam, Myanmar, and Myanmar AGAIN. They also supplied weapons to Indonesia which likely ended up getting used somewhere in Papau, but that one isn't as fair because at this point who hasn't sold to Indonesia.
In Central and South America they are the military backers for Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua, all militant dictatorships.
In Africa, they rebuilt the Mwalimu Julius Nyerere Leadership School which is established as a collaboration between the CCP and the Former Liberation Movements of Southern Africa. This is the most benign entry on this list so far, but looking at China's track record you can probably see where it's going to end up.
The also did all of this to Hong Kong:
And if they weren't too busy executing their own military leaders, chances are they'd be invading Taiwan already. Chinese Military spending is growing massively, growing about 5x in 20 years. Currently, China contests lands in Taiwan, Vietnam, North Korea, South Korea, and India (which China claims is actually Western Tibet) and they're getting less "diplomatic" about it every day.
Also, China has promoted conservative leaders including the GOP and even Donald Trump by name as well as the AfD.
China didn't "invade" Hong Kong. Hong Kong was handed over by the UK.
Backing dictators isn't really a valid argument when comparing with the US considering that the U.S. has engaged and still engages in the same activities. The difference is that the U.S. gets directly involved with boots on the ground in toppling governments against their interests whereas China does not. Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, the Banana Wars, list goes on.
You can hate China for how they treat Hong Kong and Tibet, you can hate them for backing dictatorships, and you can hate them for a litany of other things.
End of the day, China isn't bombing and killing civilians of sovereign countries that didn't attack them. How many times has China gone out and deposed the leaders of sovereign countries? If you count Tibet, once, and congrats, you have one example from the last hundred years. Even if you have more examples, it's not hard to see how the optics looks between the two. People get pissed when you bomb countries that didn't attack you and weren't planning to attack you. They get pissed when you assassinate and kidnap their leaders. I don't care if those places are dictatorships, that's for those countries to sort out, the U.S. isn't the world's police.
Edit: Congrats, you also named minor border skirmishes with India and the South China Sea. If you're downvoting me you're missing the point that China does this far less than the U.S. does, and therefore has better optics. This isn't defending China or saying it can't do any wrong, but three conflicts that are overall pretty small on the world stage is nothing compared to having military interventions in dozens of countries that don't even border you that murder countless more civilians for literally no reason other than economic gain. It's not hard to see how people view one option as better than the other, and saying that doesn't equate to me saying "China good".
My apologies, Typo, one of the mentions of Hong Kong was supposed to say Taiwan.
Your modlog's really fun looking at, and doesn't do you any favours showing how rational and nuanced you are.
Cool Beans dawg, ad hominem btw
Right, "ad hominem" is me pointing out that you think China and the CCP want to "kill us all and take over the Earth" and that they'd "take joy in everyone's homes in NATO burning down".
It's not ad hominem to showcase that you don't have a history of making rational and nuanced comments pertaining to China in a discussion about China.
They do want that, the Chinese Dictatorship is the largest threat to mankind on this earth.
And grass is blue and the sky is green.
Have a good day.
Does active support for Russia count?
Tibet
I am afraid when trump is out, it is going to be business as usual
I def won't be returning to anything American for a while. Maybe if multiple left-wing progressive Dems are at the helm for a longer while, and break down the invasive surveillance capitalist state.
But until then, goodbye America.
I’m not too sure. I think after the first term people thought that the Americans will learn from their mistake and move on. But now Americans proved that they’d vote for Trump a second time so who knows who could be president in 1, 2, 3 terms. The trust that the US would be fairly stable foreign policy wise is gone
Isn't soft power just capitalist colonialism without guns.
When has the USA bullying of a foreign government ever done anything but turn around and bite us in the ass? Iran, Iraq, Saudi, we made all of those messes.
Just because china is trying to be an imperial power is no reason we should keep trying to be one.
On the flip side, China is in a perpetual war with India. Has subjugated Tiben, and is now colonizing it with Han chinese. Is trying to take the south china sea by force. Including raming other countries ships. And pursing Wolf deplomacy to scare the shit out of all it's neighbors.
There are no good guys here, only greed and men with micro penises that like to rape.
Isn’t soft power just capitalist colonialism without guns.
No it isn't.
In politics, particularly in international politics, soft power is the ability to influence or persuade others through the use of persuasive means, as opposed to the use of force or coercion, which is an aspect of hard power. This process entails the strategic shaping of others' preferences through the use of appealing, non-coercive, and attractive means, using culture, political values, and foreign policies to enact change.