Wait till they name one of their evil companies/products second breakfast.
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A lot of techbros like to have "alternative interpretations" on said works. They don't see them as technology/power bad stories, but as issues of bad alignment.
"Yes the torment nexus didn't work out in the classic scifi novel "Don't build the torment nexus" but that was just because the people who built it where incompetent. Look, i am different, see I have billions of dollars I am definitely competent enough to make the torment nexus work."
Doesn't the Tolkien estate tell them to stop?
I guess they read the silmarillion, but understood not the words they read.
They all do this. San francisco used to be the old hyperliterate drug fueled counterculture mecca. So they still identify with that, and there's still like vestigial aesthetic shreds of the old city's corpse hanging off their beloved Moloch (howl-written in San Francisco). So they see literary allusions and implying they've read books as cool. Especially the ones who came up in the 80s and 90s when the old literate hippies could still afford to live there.
But none of them have read more than one book, because one is enough to reference, right? and they didn't understand it. So mike zuckerberg read 'snow crash' and is just doing all the evil shit from 'snow crash'. Thiel read LOTR. Whoever keeps giving money to 'ai children's toy' read 'diamond age'.
Because they see is=aught and can't tell the difference between fiction and reality on an emotional level, being shit heads who fundamentally disrespect the very concept of humanities and have no interiority.
These people have an overwhelming predisposition to take a shit on everything. They encountered a thing. They took a shit on it.
Yep. Musk read a Culture book, probably Excession. Definitely not Surface Detail. He would have been offended.
i think one thing people miss is that counter culture movements sometimes win people over in the worst ways and they get really extreme ideas, or really extreme people get spun up in them and become little evil vorticies of power and influence. The sixties spawned the civil rights movement, peace movement. It also created the Manson family. There's a sort of yin and yang to these things IMO, creation and destruction. It's like a period of high energy and change and that can get used in many creative and destructive ways.
Some people see today as terrible and think socialism will fix it. Others, fascism. Two people agree that current leaders are failing, but for different reasons. And when everyone is demanding change, you can get some dangerous people to pop out of the wood work.
People like Musk and Thiel grow up in free thinking environments and in counter culture meccas and are a direct result of that energy. They dont run counter to it. They are a product of it.
There are complexities. Sure. Pushing new ideas is always complicated, and shitty people can do shitty things with them.
The Manson family was hoover's baby. Not that they're innocent, but they had help sucking that much.
None of that is this. The counter culture hasn't been there for decades; what's left is aesthetic remnants.
Thiel grew up in a Nazi cult. I think in south Africa? There were swastikas on the flags in his school. Musk is from south africa-during apartheid. They're not from fucking San Francisco. You're trying to make a point about how too much freedom is bad sometimes. I've got complex feelings, but your point is totally unsupported by facts on display here.
The point of what I said is that they're not genuinely from/of there, its just the cultural milleiu they knew in their 20s. They pulled the fucking aesthetics and nothing else, and they're getting stupid(er) because even the fucking aesthetics were too much for them.
They must think LOTR is an instruction manual in how to become an evil overlord or something
Nah, they just tell themselves everyone who's against them is an orc.
You know that Thiel explicitly sides with Sauron, as he himself has said in interviews? How would orcs be against him?
There's a weird obsession among the far right lunatics with LOTR and just completely missing the message. Vance is in that crew too
I've noticed the same in recent years with Star Trek and the far right as well.
I don't know how they can possibly miss that the Federation is functionally a post-scarcity socialist utopia.
On the other hand... the Ferengi are essentially a direct replica of the modern US, including the far right's clear motive to try and force women back to subservience. I'm sure they'd love to be able to force them to be naked all the time while they're at it.
It's obvious many of the species in the ST universe were extreme caricatures of specific regions/countries from real life, and the Ferengi were based on the US... But I don't think they expected the caricature to so directly become the reality.
Well somebody needs to be the villain.
(as in: yes, that might also be the point. There are villains.)
you can add warhammer 40k to it too.
personally i would say its a sense of a belonging and purpose in a group for a unambigious cause that most people crave. but its just that most time the cause is skewed pretty bad by the people of power.
To be fair, can anyone understand The Silmarillion? The way it is written is hard even when you are literate.
when reading The Silmarillion, it's important to remember that Finrod, the brother of Galadriel, is different from Fingon. Fingon is Finrod's cousin, and also the brother of Turgon. Fingon and Turgon's father is Fingolfin, who is the brother of Finarfin, who is Finrod's father. you'll have a hard time following the story if you don't keep all those straight
You go in expecting a book, but instead it’s just the Wikipedia page for Middle Earth
This is a very apt description of it. I remember the creation of Arda, but beyond that, it's all a bit fuzzy, like I read the Wikipedia page half asleep and dreamed the rest.
You sure you didn't read the creation of Arda and then fall asleep fully? I did, It's the worst chapters of the Silmarillion that filters 90% of the readers, the reason I reccomend all readers start with the coming of the Elves.
They probably saw The Oath as just badass, and the First Kinslaying as a "gotta break a few eggs to make an omlette" inspiration
I can think of a lot of books like that
Jokes on them, heaven has royalties. Some mfers abt to get their blessings repod
Next thing you know San Francisco will be renamed Orthanc and DC, Mordor.
We will avenge you Mr. Tolkien.
Anduril keeps trying to recruit me. I don't know how to send them a strong enough message that conveys just how hard they need to fuck off.
Send word to the elves! the time has come. The sword of your forefathers must be reforged! You have my bow. Err the break of dawn, we ride!
All my years of giving 89% are paying off. The only companies trying to recruit me are named unimaginative double entendres
You mean like bobs burgers next door neighbor?
Not nearly as clever
Oh they hit me up a couple of weeks ago. So far no follow-ups, but we'll see...
They sent me two a week for a month six months ago, and they'll probably keep trying for another couple weeks this time around as well.
Shit, they did the same thing six months before that, too. It was only a few pings every year before then.
What the fuck. That's some serious persistence.
Yeah, looks like they've been trying to contact me for over four years now. I probably should instruct them to go fuck themselves at this point, I guess.
IPs
Nope. Just IP.
Not intellectual properties? Odd take.
