If we privatize the schools, train the lower class for work and motherhood, this will.be a Fair Society! The weak stay in their place.
[this is what Conservatives actually believe]
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this is what Conservatives actually believe
It kind of is! They believe in hierarchy, and that people need to be in their correct place for the world to work. It's a reason they oppose things like social programs- things that try to bring people up contradict the natural order and lead to bad times!
They're kind of bad people, fundamentally.
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The conservative goal would be for schooling to be as affordable as possible, without artificial barriers restricting supply for the benefit of unions rather than students. I can't really speak for all conservatives because, first, I'm not one, & second, there's a huge diversity of thought within conservatism. For example, some conservatives support Israel's genocidal actions in Gaza, while others oppose them, so there are obvious huge differences of opinion within the tent that is 'conservatism'.
What monetary evidence have you seen that makes you think unions are the most expensive barrier to education?
All the evidence I've seen has shown education costs have outpaced even CEO/administrative pay (one of the highest rising costs in society, dwarfing even housing inflation.)
Chalking it up to unions and union workers (whose pay is often rising at inflation rates or below) seems a bit absurd.
To use a metaphor its like saying we should address a sinking ship by opening an umbrella on the roof to deflect rain instead of finding and sealing the actual holes. Maybe the rain adds to the water but shouldn't we be discussing the hole first: rising cost of living and administrative costs.
The hyperfixation on eliminating unions while ignoring real problems and costs seems less like 'conservative fiscal responsibility' and more like '2011 Scott Walker corruption ideology'
I shouldn't have only mentioned unions. A better way to put it is that I take issue with education when it isn't oriented to serve the consumer (i.e., the parent or student). I would oppose eliminating unions, as I actually like many of them; I just don't like closed-shop unions. I also like worker cooperatives, but I don't support mandating them.
Realistically though, lets set aside unions as they are at best irrelevant to any real discussion of education and at worst simply the subject of cold war hyperfixation and irrational fear.
What is a real cost saving measure that could be brought to education?
Technology fees, subscriptions and infrastruction are, for instance, a major cost burden that has arisen in the last 40 years during the course of time where educational costs have skyrocketed. Why don't I ever see conservatives talking about reducing educational technology costs?
There is a similar problem with legal and administrative costs as well.
I tell people to try to take the GED & graduate high school early (since it's a waste of time & full of propaganda), then save money on their first year of college by taking CLEP exams using vouchers provided through completing Modern States courses.
There's a lot to be said for community college transfers, testing out of credits etc from a purchaser perspective. While that can help individual students I don't think it addresses larger problems about rising costs in the academic sector and the fact that high costs make planning and attending colleges a high cost, moderate risk proposition.
For instance, an ideal college system would reduce need for corporations to request h1b visas
The level of bureacracy (both for students and institutions) required to maintain so many grant and voucher systems including secondary bureacratic patchworks like H1b visas could all be drastically reduced by subsidizing college tuiton prices across the board to the point where college costs were less of a financial burden.
One might argue that eliminating tuition costs entirely would pay for itself in reduced bureacratic burden across the government and would make it easier for corporations to retrain employees rather than importing them.
There's far more than enough money to go around, it is that most spending is inefficient. Lunches should be free and healthy, books should be free unless it's intentionally damaged, teachers should be paid well (60k minimum) and management should take a pay cut.
60k was pre 2020 rate, they should be paid 100k+ for how much training and bullshit they have to go through.
150k in like NY, SD, LA, SF. Maybe closer to 60k in Beckley WV. Cost of living and taxes aren't the same everywhere.
Arguably, more rural schools or those in lower income areas should be paying proportionally better for teachers, to attract talent that would otherwise have no interest in being in that area. Those schools tend to be where students and their families have little or no say about what districts they are in, as they use regional magnet schools that cater to multiple small towns. They’d have to completely upend everything and move a substantial distance to have options urban folks take largely for granted. My town has two public and three private school systems, for example, and its only moderately urban. Where I grew up, one school district serviced 1/4 of the county.
Currently the rural districts pay nearly nothing and its lower than other places which also pay nearly nothing, so they get the worst of the worst educators who can’t find better and it keeps everyone’s wages depressed generationally.
But social mobility is a dream of that past that’s long since dead and buried anyway.
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There are some issues around corruption and school management. Schools near me requested substantial funding to replace aging AC units. The very next year after they got it, a number of the AC units failed, and they couldn't replace them. An audit showed that the entire funding for the AC replacement was divided among the top administrators and paid as a bonus.
That said, the way to stop that from happening isn't to defund public schools and just repeat the same problem with private schools. You put in some oversight. You make them provide reports for the funding, spot-check, and trust with verification.
Pushing kids into private schools by defunding will make education (and safety) impossible to monitor.
And they all got prison sentences, right? Right? Of course they didn't...
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public school budgets can't be bloated, only misappropriated.
Which usually happens under dipshit republican school boards.
"fucking communists and their education fetish" - ~~NYT~~ NYP
This one is New York Post.
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Scary commie muslim
"If he was a good person God would have made him white"
They won't say that out loud, but this is what they really think, deep inside of the shriveled cockles of their black hearts
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"this man is investing in making kids smarter rather than making my stock portfolio increase by an additional 0.0001% and this makes him an existential threat to society"
-NY Post, translated from news editese
The Post is only fulfilling its original purpose since it was founded by Alexander Hamilton; it is a political mouthpiece for the moneyed interests in New York City.
One of their earliest political hit pieces absolutely decimated John Adams' already tenuous political career in the public eye and ultimately paved the way for Jeffersonian politics to calcify around the heart of our nation's politics.
Huh I would have thought the NYP was founded in like 1980 or something
Those greedy teachers wanting to eat three meals a day! The gall of these people!
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Yes but what's this anime?
apparently: Kaju Nukumizu from the anime series Too Many Losing Heroines!
It's up there with the Washington Times, which is owned by a korean anti-communist cult (the moonies) that's full of sex crimes.
... that's the Washington Times, not to be confused with the Washington Post (a far more legitimate news outlet).
Except that the Washington Post is now owned by Bezos, and had been pretty shit on these sorts of things as well ever since.
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Fuck the NYP, but sadly both can be true.
Look at the University of California. Paying slave’s wages to faculty in spite of ever-increasing tuitions that only feed a giant tumor called “admin.”
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Someone was asking about how they were going to spin this, were they getting ideas?
Y'all may not like it, but this is actually smart coverage for the NY Post.
I mean, if we properly educate children then who is going to read the NY Post once the boomers die? Education is a direct threat to the future of their company.
It's a tabloid. Nothing more.
Unfortunately, modern Americans are too stupid to know the difference between tabloids and actual news.
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there's a reason Wikipedia only trusts NYP for stuff like pop culture and not politics
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Won't someone unthink of the kids!?
How will we pay for all the bombs we need if all those stupid schools use up all the money?!
The NY post is a trump enabling shit rag.
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