This is what I'm hoping Europe's transition into FOSS will do for the ecosystem. If they can make a polished sovereign software stack with a well known offramp, what exactly is the value of Microsoft? Why pay that much? Especially as all of their products get worse and enshittify further.
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But... But... But, then how they will now I use Arch? ο½(γ€Λ0Λ)γ€ο½‘β
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It's kind of a straw-man argument as no one is forcing anyone to use Linux. But using cross platform FOSS to avoid lock-in IS a good idea, and it does make transitioning to Linux easier (or indeed many other OSs - FOSS or not).
But Linux's success on the desktop has been organic. It's a combination of platform maturity, ease of use, the breaking of windows USP in gaming, privacy and data concerns, and on the other side the enshitification of Windows, and even MacOS. The only "forcing" is arguably Microsoft & Apple pushing it's users away from their own platforms by their behaviour.
Microsoft is kind of forcing me to
no one is forcing anyone to use Linux
if I had the authority I would force everyone to use linux
Hey, it's the Bill Gates of Linux.
(Stay off that island dude).
true, I meant pushing instead of forcing
No one can force you to use Linux
Me and the boys loading into a van with skimasks, crowbars and baseball bats, and a bootable installer USB:
We'll see about that, won't we
Install Arch on all his computers while you tie him to a chair and force him to watch!
no don't stop
edit: hang on, will you make sure all the drivers are installed properly?
I'll have you hang head first off the ceiling and read the Arch wiki to you.
I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I just look down on them for using Windows. And you can't stop me!

This is what I've been doing, most of my software whether for work or personal has a Linux version, however I'm still stuck with Adobe for now for PS+LR and can't really be bothered with dual booting. As soon as I manage to replace those in a way that works for me professionally, I'm hopping over.
You can use Affinity as an app image to replace Photoshop.
And I've been using Rawtherapee for the photography stuff for a while... Although the latest r lease of Davinci Resolve has some lovely photo editing and grading tools.
And yeah I'm on DaVinci as well and it's nice they're trying and if I do cut off photography gigs that might be enough but for now, definitely not a stand in for LR+PS workflows.
To be honest I've tried affinity and it didn't cut the mustard for my workflows at the time (maybe like 3 years ago). I'll admit, having used LR+PS for over 20 years I'm very set in my ways, but I'm trying to cut out the photography jobs completely in favour of moving image and once that's done I should be able to let go (though I still use PS for some stuff in the video work as well but at least it's not my entire workflows..).
I found the change awkward at first, a lot searching online for "how the hell do I..."
The thing that swayed me in the end is publisher, their alternative to InDesign. As a typesetter, it's a joy to use and the fact that all three apps, photo, illustrator and publisher are unified makes working so much quicker.
And hey, it's free.
This often doesn't work very well as people will blame Windows/MacOS issues on the less well integrated FOSS apps and in general the Windows versions are also often more buggy as the developers spend little to no time using Windows themselves (because who would voluntarily use that crap?).
Eh just jump right in. Youβll most likely float, itβs been a neat experience for me thus far: having /var/cache file for updates filled up bc of updates, unable to login with my working password to my profile, Luks not working at all - these are great ways to learn how to evolve the hard way. I throughly enjoy whatβs next for me in my Linux environment!
Who's forcing anyone to use Linux?
I do! I break into people's apartments, beat them up a little bit and I say that I'll be back in a couple of months and if I will see them using Windows I will kill them. Works like a charm.
Guess we all need a hobby.
What do you do if I'm using Linux already? Beat my ass a little and then cuddle with me in bed?
You're obviously using a wrong distro. Beatings will continue as planned.
How did you know? Did we meet?
Probably various workplaces. Just like lots of them force you to use Windows.
Personal machines, yep, it's all a choice.
Yeah, the all or nothing approach will not make Linux mainstream. Meet people where they are.
I dualbooted and then just didnt touch windows again til a year later, I stopped using a few hobbyist programs that I had put a lot of time in but pirated and stuck to just blender really since piracy was and still is difficult for some of those programs (houdini) or the program itself causes issues and doesn't work well on linux (davinci resolve on bazzite, worked fine on cachyos tho, all amd)
I only reinstalled windows on another drive recently to play simracing games, but ended up mostly playing the ones that work on linux rather than iracing and wrc which I booted up windows for.
Plenty of things still don't work well or require a lot of workarounds, like producers using ableton probably shouldn't switch to linux, or vfx artists using touch designer, if s@box devs exist the dev side doesn't work on linux
Proton for windows when?
would actually help with old games compatibility.
Just run steam through WSL of course!
Oh fuck... That would probably actually solve Spore crashing, wouldn't it?
Dxvk already helps.
As soon as Windows runs on Linux :)
If you want universal uptake, you need to be in the schools.
Iβm forced to use CoPilot at work and chuckled when the running dialog showing my prompt was being delivered showed LibreOffice being used for initial file generation.
cross platform meaning FOSS OS (BSDs, linux, androids)
though it's often easy to make it support proprietary OS with little-to-no dev time, and the idea of spreading FOSS to those trapped in proprietary OSes is good too
So, how is cross compatibility between Haiku, AROS and Linux?
I don't know why, but I've gotten more resistance for suggesting that than Linux. Switched my wife to Linux no problem, another girl I know was like "do you really think it will run on my laptop with a Celeron? I will look into it." IT people I work with are like "yeah Microsoft sucks but I'm not ready".
People get REALLY comfortable with their shitty proprietary apps though, even tech literate people. I'm not even including stuff like Adobe which are great and people have spent years using processionally. I mean like Signal, which is functionally the same as any other messaging app and takes two seconds to get up and running.
+1 for IT people that aren't actually computer folks. I regularly am amazed what IT has zero idea about that I do in my spare time, but then I realize a normal person could be in IT. I thought you had to be a mega nerd.
Also people won't use signal because no one is on it. EVERYONE here is on fb so they all use messenger and won't leave no matter how horrible it is.
You're right, I just don't understand that mentality though. You don't have to stop using FB Messenger immediately if people you know use it. If you want something better though, you have to start using other products, and eventually it will be big enough that you can ditch Messenger. Plus I'm actively asking you to message me on Signal, so just do it. What is the problem? I have apps that I actively dislike and are bad for privacy, like Snapchat for example, solely for one person, just because they're busy and prefer it and I care about them and keeping in contact. Why do so few people seem to do the same for Signal, even when they complain about the mainstream apps?
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