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[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago

tf did ISO do?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

also "electricity grid" has had many schisms. in lots of places of africa for example, many people have never had regular (reliable) grid access. decentralized solar power makes it possible today.

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

does Texas count as a schism?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

also the very important facebook/meta quasi-monopoly is not on the list?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

about visa/mastercard: some restaurants here take cash mostly, and when you ask to pay with card, they say "it's broken".

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

this entire image is generated, besides some real icons being placed on the left side.

not a fan.

EDIT: added thingy about the icons

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Even the icons likely are.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

most icons are, but those brand ones areeent- image models aren't there quite yet with replicating logos perfectly like that.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

This is weirdly wrong?

Iso standard and electricity grid on there doesn't add up.

apple/google? Fdroid f.ex Eu regulations

Visa? plenty of working projects, but most importantly: cash.

What's the point here?

edit: swift is also not a monopoly? International ACH transfers f.ex? Can't say much on the US-A exclusives here, but otherwise it seems mostly wrong 🤷

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Also WTF did organized religion schism into? "Reformation" seems to be a reference to the Christian Reformation, which is A) only one organized religion (and not "organized religion" as a whole) which B) reformed into... another organized religion.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

yea fr!

it's a strangely narrow view even within abrahamistic religions? to divide it into just two religions. I think it forgets the schism into orthodoxy, and is it english reformation or the protestantistic movement?

I suppose it is okay to ignore the modern american cults, but mormonism, adventists and evangelicals are big groups even within this small piece of religion 🤷

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This is clearly made by some right-wing libertarian or similar nutcase.

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 13 hours ago

The "weaponization" of accreditation is what gave it away for me. The people who cry foul over this are typically complaining that some hyper-evangelical creationist college can't get accredited because they insist on teaching demonstrably false nonsense.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I was going to say the same, this was created by someone with an overly basic understanding of how these things work

Natural monopolies over things like infrastructure and standards aren't necessarily bad as long as they're not privately owned nor profit seeking.

For instance, I can't exactly imagine how a market of competitive standards orgs would even remotely be able to reach the consensus necessary to accomplish the goal of creating standards. It'd just be an endless XKCD 927

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, this seems to b the most plausible explanation. Also christian, due to the whole "spiritual salvation" only having the reformation?

competetive standards do sort of exist tho? 🤔 I think both hdmi and usb are standards made within competition. Hdmi forum is most of the competition coming together to agree on a standard. And there is still competition

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I'm aware we don't have one global standards org, but generally at ISO, IETF, IEEE, ITU & IEC are all some that come to mind with some level of shared interest, however I wouldn't say they act competitively to each other and tend to work collaboratively rather than competitively.

I suppose interestingly, to use your HDMI example, this is kind of what happens when you don't have a central standards body handling this stuff, HDMI came from the television industry and DisplayPort came from the computing industry. There is no technical reason for both to exist, and one could have been adapted to fill the needs of both and become the one standard if it wasn't for industry groups ultimately trying to profit (HDMI carries licensing fees and requirements, so does DP to a lesser extent).

I guess you're right though, I probably should have thought it through a bit more before my last comment

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

Tbh it's kinda funny how even within competition it can lead to standards 🤔 but we do on the other hand have old phone chargers before usb even tried to be standard 💀

I never thought about displayport coming from the computing, but yes unlike f.ex Hevc it's outside of the ISO assorted groups 🤔

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

also for apple and google one can switch to other providers, i made a whole list here

[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 12 hours ago

Yeah... crypto and fintech will save us all... lololololol

[–] lime@feddit.nu 30 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah let's abolish accreditation, certification and measurement standards. love to get a bridge designed by some rando making it up as they go.

the problem isn't certifications, the problem is that some countries charge money to study for them. end for-profit education schemes instead.

[–] rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

that would work even worse for medicine unless the goal is to let the cranks in

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 hours ago

Make the entrance test about knowledge rather than economic muscles. Like most of the world does. :)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 14 hours ago

seems to work pretty well in most of the world

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 14 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

visa/mastercard schism attempt: vero in europe

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 5 points 12 hours ago

Pix in Brazil and JCB in Japan.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

We had Bankcard in Australia too.

RIP Bankcard.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago
[–] Mok98@feddit.it 12 points 15 hours ago

Electricity grid: happening right now all over the place with solar

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Some of these things are not like the others. I for one do not want to live in a world without occupational licensing, ISO standards, or a Bar Association. As is often said, 'regulations are written in blood,' and organizations such as these were created to pull order out of chaos, to separate con artists from the legitimate.

And presenting the electrical grid in this list as if it were something bad? Makes no sense. Its existence, pieced together over decades of painstaking work, is what allows the modern world. We've only recently—as in the past few years—even been able to contemplate moving away from a full grid as a model to deliver power, much less implement something else. Civilization would quite literally collapse overnight without it. And 'duplicate infrastructure?' Much of the modern grid's frailty is due to not enough duplicate infrastructure. Nothing made by mankind lasts forever. Engineering resilience by definition requires some duplicate infrastructure. There's no way around that.

Gatekeeping and regulated monopolies aren't ALWAYS bad. They can absolutely serve a purpose for the greater good, with enough oversight.

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

By 'well regulated monopolies' I'm specifically thinking of the pattern common in the U.S. to run power and water as municipal monopolies. We've seen firsthand what happens when you deregulate power.

Enron's ghouls strip-mined California wealth in record time, and the state quickly rolled back the deregulation when the company destabilized their entire power grid.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a list of what institutional capture is, it’s not about it being good or bad. It’s a pattern. It can be used for both.

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

At the risk of arguing on the internet, the examples I listed are not what institutional capture even is.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 14 hours ago

Down with IEEE! (No one, probably)

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 4 points 13 hours ago

Missing the "intellectual property" monopoly in there, easily dwarves all the items listed combined

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 14 hours ago

DIN, IEC, etc. exists as alternatives to ISO. :)

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

This thing doesn't compare apples to oranges, it compares apples to the concept of free will in context of a cheesy love story in a war setting where the author was drunk and getting orally pleasured while writing the scene in question with chopsticks dipped in a tar pit on human leather.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 points 10 hours ago

so you did get orally pleasured while writing this shit? damn, i would give a lot for getting head at the moment.

[–] rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago

For a good couple of years you have to publish in open access if your funding comes from EU

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I was not aware that the diamond monopoly was broken. Neat.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 hours ago

it's not. demand just dropped off a cliff.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I'm assuming that they're talking about lab-grown diamonds.