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cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/shermanposting/p/2148889/something-true
Excuse me, it was about state rights. Sure, sure, the states were making the argument that they had the right to keep slaves, but how is that relevant to your argument?
It's sad that this is even a debate in 2026, I thought we finally buried the lost cause myth for good already
Yeah my rural southern school drilled the "it wasn't slavery" over and over.
They conveniently omitted pretty much every article of secession that cited slavery. Instead just focused on how late the emancipation was and how it avoided emancipating slaves in Union states.
So maybe the North wasnt sufficiently abolitionist, but the South sure as hell thought they were.
Don't know why that had to be a picture, but yes, and almost every state's declaration had the same point in it, usually the first paragraph.
But no, my school didn't teach that. They only acknowledged that the north had not yet absolutely banned slavery everywhere and the states seceeded before they even tried to come down hard on the insitution. They desperately want to erase the fact that the south very much had the moral low ground.
Still think that everyone in power in the south should've been hanged for treason.
It's not too late.
Not for treason. While the union was on the right side of the slavery issue, I can't agree with the whole imperialist "you can't leave this nation, we rule you" stance. Governance should be consensual IMO, though I'm not opposed to military interventions to deal with evil shit like slavery or refusing to allow those who want out to leave (but not to enforce economic advantages).
Though ultimately it doesn't really matter and the strongest militaries, intelligence agencies, and civil obedience forces will decide in the end, as they always have.
Governance should be consensual IMO
They can't claim a consensus when half of the population were slaves or freedmen who could not vote. Those people were pro-union for obvious reasons.
When you add up those with the non-insignificant fraction of white southerners who opposed succession then it's clear that there was no popular consensus to leave the union.
So yeah the Federal government had every right to crush them.
I also think its strange to tell them that the south can't leave the nation. I dont see why its a good idea to force them to stay.
"No, it was about states' rights!"
"States' rights to do what?"
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Article I Section 9(4) of the Confederate constitution:
No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.
Yeah, they specifically restricted state's rights.
States' rights to do what, motherducker!
It was explicitly NOT about states' rights. The Confederacy hated states' rights. They were the ones pissed they couldn't enforce their shitty laws in the North. They prevented any of their member states from ever outlawing slavery.
That line isn't just a cutesy way of hiding the ugly part behind the technical truth, it's a flat out lie.