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[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Shhh, we don't want them to know this.

[–] Argon@tardigram.com 2 points 1 day ago

Go fash, become ash.

[–] Dryad@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s not just mistrust of medicine, its rejection of science, reason, and the idea that experts actually know what they’re talking about and aren’t just out to get you. Conservativism is now a cult where the only source of truth is the orange man, and science is only useful for him when it makes his ego feel good.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The "Secretary of War" went a decade without washing his hands.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I had not heard that but... here we are.

"germs are not a real thing".

This should be a disqualification for being taken serious in any regard yet it's just par for the course on fox and in the trump administration.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't he claim that was a "joke"?

It's a joke in the same way my wannabe highschool bully shoving his hands in my face and chanting I'm not touching you was a joke. Difference is my improved punchline was far better than any follow through either he or Kegsbreath could must, I punch him in the sternum and watched him gasp on the floor like a fish.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reality has a left-wing bias.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m inclined to reframe this adage as rationality having a left-wing bias, since, y’know, reality is inherently unbiased. I realize I’m being somewhat pedantic though.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but I think "reality" actually works better.

Granted that reality is not a conscious agent and thus cannot itself be biased, the simple fact of the matter is that reality corresponds much more with left-wing pronciples and viewpoints than it does right-wing principles and viewpoints.

And yes - it can just as accurately be said that left-wing principles and viewpoints are more rational than right-wing, as demonstrated by the fact that they better accord with reality.

But that puts the focus on the person holding the view, and their rationality or lack thereof, and people (especially right-wingers) tend to dig their heels in when it's suggested that they're irrational, and their immediate tendency is to simply attack whoever makes that suggestion rather than actually considering the possibility.

By shifting the focus to reality itself, one is effectively saying, "Hey - don't look at me. If you have a problem with it, go take it up with reality."

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the simple fact of the matter is that reality corresponds much more with left-wing pronciples and viewpoints than it does right-wing principles and viewpoints.

I’m not quite as sure it can be said that any abstract ideas or viewpoints can be said to correspond with reality. There’s nothing to say that it’s the case for that as it is with the existence of gravity or the roundness of the Earth. It’d be just as valid for me to appeal to the divine right of royalty as a matter of fact and yet (hopefully) we all know how little weight that actually holds in any practical sense.

I suppose what I’m trying to say is that reality isn’t something that can be bound to any one idea or perspective. Reality for, say, a cow is going to be a hell of a lot different from reality for any human being, and neither perspective is any more or less valid than the other. The fact that Humanity is still bickering among itself about the “right” religion and the “right” ideology I believe is proof enough of the nonexistence of any one objective truth when it comes to the things we believe in.

Most importantly though if we presuppose reality to have a bias of any kind then we’re still falling into the pit of human hubris that we’ve fallen into time and again throughout human history, and without a doubt still are. The universe doesn’t have any obligation to adhere to any one of our beliefs, and so when we make absurd leaps in logic based on them we’re setting ourselves up for damage and suffering far outweighing that which was ever necessary. The Crusades, Manifest Destiny, the Great Chinese Famine, the Holocaust… they were all caused at least on a psychological level through blind faith and uncompromising adherence to inherently fallacious ideas. At best there’s nothing productive about those beliefs, and at worst you get something like what I listed above.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...reality isn’t something that can be bound to any one idea or perspective. Reality for, say, a cow is going to be a hell of a lot different from reality for any human being, and neither perspective is any more or less valid than the other

I'm reminded of the anecdote of Samuel Johnson's reaction to the assertion that idealism could not be refuted - he kicked a large rock and said, "I refute it thus."

When I said that reality has a left-wing bias, I meant reality. Not the beliefs or subjective experiences that all too many erroneously promote to the position of nominal facts, but actual, demonstrable facts.

Like, for instance, vaccination prevents disease. Climate change is real. Doctors are not part of some international conspiracy to fool you into wasting your money while keeping you away from the miracle cure Ivermectin. Trump lost in 2020. Transgender people are going to continue to exist no matter what your personal opinion of the matter might be. Society is healthier, stronger and more stable when the gap between rich and poor is narrow and everyone is guaranteed food, shelter and medical care. And so on.

In all of those cases and many more, the left wing position corresponds with the actual, demonstrable facts, while the right-wing position does not.

That's exactly what I meant, and all that I meant.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Leftist beliefs align more nicely with reality as opposed to rightist beliefs, it doesn’t mean that reality itself adheres strictly to leftist beliefs. Reality governs itself independently of all thought, no matter what patterns and similarities we can interpret between the two. It would be far more appropriate to say that leftism has a reality bias as opposed to the other way around.

[–] devaly@ani.social 8 points 2 days ago

Humans are social, just saying

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll say it, good. Less evil in the world or those who would vote for it.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Too bad, so sad.
Well, anyway...

[–] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Excellent! Now, what can we do to really crank those numbers up?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Stop mandating vaccines but get them anyways

[–] Kittywifclaws@piefed.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh hey! A little find out in a sea of fuck around!

[–] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More finding out please. Like 50 orders of magnitude more.

That would require conservative ETs to achieve

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 16 points 2 days ago

So they are kinda right about their social Darwinism? 🤔

[–] bangupjobasusual@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It isn’t enough to secure left victory in 2028.

[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Not fast enough.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet by the 2020s, demographic change, public policy and COVID-19 do not fully account for the widening gap in mortality rates. Public opinion data are consistent with a second mechanism: declining trust in medical professionals among right-leaning individuals, including lower willingness to seek care, follow clinical advice or believe in medication effectiveness, even for issues unrelated to COVID-19. These patterns suggest that growing ideological divides in health behaviours are leaving conservative Americans increasingly vulnerable to preventable health risks.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I mean, they voted against their own interests as far as health care is concerned. A rare show of consistency.

[–] Ele7en7@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Shocking I tell you

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago
[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is this from a show? Id like to know which if so

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's a shitty AI image. Look at the doctor's stethoscope.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do you have something against his left tit spying on his right tit?

Side note, the joke is what I was interested in. It's solid.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a documentary

It's called "'Murica"

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks G, and of course it is

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago