Make each digit of the tip a number that adds up to 9 with the subtotal except for the last digit. First is 7, last digit needs to add up to a value of 10
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US tip culture is so weird. I’m talking about the comments as much as the pic
what about it is weird?
our servers are generally paid 2-3 dollars an hour, and they make all their income base on tips. people who work in service industry generally prefer it, as it allows them to dodge taxes by underreporting their tip income. it does create a bit of a feast of famine in the service industry, as if you can get a lucrative dinner shift at a higher end restaurant, you can make a good living, which is otherwise in accessible to people without degrees or specialized skills.
I will be honest. I find that weird.
Do you underpay the shop clerks too, with the assumption that they will simply take part of the money handed to them by shopping clients?
No. shop clerks aren't providing a personal service. they just stand there and ring you up.
That's a service. Otherwise shops wouldn't add self-checkout.
Everything you just said is weird
cool. to me it's about as normal as drinking water from the tap.
is that weird in your country? i understand many places tap water is not potable.
I'm my country drinking tap water is as normal as paying people a living wage. We don't usually tip, because people are payed enough already.
I'd say the only thing we seem to have in common is that people love tax evasion.
service workers do earn a living wage. they get it from tips. tips are the wage. it's just paid directly by the customer rather than the business owner. the business owner never gets any of the tips, unless they are stealing.
maybe it would make more sense to you if you consider them as contract workers who are working for you individually when you go into a restaurant? and those who do better jobs often get better wages, and/or those who are more attractive.
This might be the stupidest take of the take. God damn
Wage is predetermined by contract. Getting tips is random money with no guarantees.
No idea why people defend this system. Depending on goodwill of random people is not the way to go.
OK, you can come to america and start a restaurant without tips and see how it goes. You can prove everyone here wrong!
or... places here have tried that before and almost all of them have failed because it's not sustainable to pay people $25+ an hour and customers won't pay the prices on that food when they can go down the street and pay half as much.
good news is you don't live here, so it's none of your concern really.
Like the 10 closest restaurants near me don't allow tipping and pay their workers 22-27 an hour... And they do just fine?
I'm in California.
You might be a idiot full of shit. Who doesn't actually know fuck or all about this topic. Just defending a shitty practice.
where is that precisely? SF? LA? what is the income in that zip code?
I have no doubt it's possible in a very high income area where people dont' care about paying $50 for hamburgers, but you're a fool if you think that's generalization to a zip code where the median income is 40-50K.
Also, how long have they been around? months? years?
a few places in my city went that route and closed after 2-3 years. they were experiments.
What are you talking about? The biggest restaurant chain in the US (McDonalds) forbids tipping. Last I checked they’re doing OK.
I'll never understand, how it can be, that I don't get a final receipt
Like, usually, I'm saying, I'm tipping (insert whatever), then in the US I'll hand over my card and need to trust them to put in the amount I intended to
I have no way of directly verifying
And everyone was angry at my just for asking and the poor barkeeper cried....as she didn't understand, that it wasn't about her...
Felt like an ass, just questioning the system
Thankfully places in the US are slowly switching to those wireless POS terminals that are brought to the table. So many cards get skimmed when handed to servers and they leave your sight.
You could look at your banking app after it's processed.
In Europe, I usually get a receipt and can write the tip on top of that, than I'll pay everything and get the real receipt, including the tip
Why should I even need to check into a stupid app, I don't even want to have?
It's just so much easier to see the real paid amount at the end
Edit: and just saying, I've been doing that all my life, doesn't make it better
"That's how we've always done it" is the thing that stands against progress
If a system is better, than it's better - and we can compare
So, what I'm up to:
Maybe I'm missing something here, which makes this blind trust better in some way, but nobody told me how
you keep the receipt, that way if you are charged wrongly you just sent the receipt to your CC and chargeback the restaurant.
it has happened to me a few times, maybe once every 2-3 years, the server will decide I didn't tip enough and my 10 dollar tip becomes 100 dollars. often they can get away with this because a lot of folks never check their receipts.
you are supposed to tip based on service level. it's entirely subjective.
That's the thing, it's just so much more effort
Doing some bar hopping at night and paying with card, it becomes completely impossible to really keep track, if the waiter just upped the tip
Or maybe I just was to drunk and have written poorly
It's just a shit system, without a way to directly verify on the spot
i don't regard it as difficult. i've been doing it systematically for 30+ years now, ever since I was a teenager.
It's just more work than it should be and it can be much easier
I just don't understand, why USA-ians always defend this system
It's much more effort and error prone
i don't know, why do you drink water when electrolyte drinks are superior for hydration?
Because it's cheaper and usually not necessary to have additional electrolytes
Edit: and I'm stopping here
This is getting beyond stupid
You guys defend an inferior system, because you don't want to change, because it was always that way
At least, that I get from your answers
I can't argue with that...
0 tip for everyone. I order to go.
You haven't provided a service. Eating alone in restaurants freaks me out :v
I'm sure you'd tip 0 if you ate in too.
I'm good at math except after more than one drink. Ngl, I really like it when the bill has a list of percentages and totals to preview. I'd like it even more if we just charged what food and labor cost and got rid of this nonsense though.
Move the decimal one place left and double it for 20%. Do it for the sub total if you prefer not to tip on tax.
Been doing this for years. I evangelize it all the time, and people still don't understand, or they try to make it more complicated than it is. But it's literally THIS easy, so easy. It's not even math at this point, especially if you only double the dollar amount and ignore the change, a kindergartener could do it.
Yet people refuse to learn a "new weird way".
You don't have to understand it, just do it. This is literally the easiest way. I will die on this hill.
they can't do basic arthimetic. yeah it seems super easy to you, but most folks don't know how to multiple by 2 without a calculator. and they refuse to learn.
i've met people who work in mathetmatics, like stats, and still can't do basic tipping without a phone to do it for them. it's just something they refuse to learn or practice, mostly out of fear they will get it wrong.
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Well, the Roman numeral M is 1000, so this is a pretty good tip. Not sure about the rest, but hey I'll take.
I expressed my displeasure of these tickets at a bar I work at to one of my coworkers. They then pointed out that in Toast POS you can just punch in the total bill and it generates the tip for you
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FYI, most places will just use the total if there's anything wrong with your math (assuming it's at least what you owe) so this is perfectly valid.
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