This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
$500 USD -> $400 USD for those of you that don't want to click.
Ok just $350 more to reduce
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"Consumers can now choose whether to add Commodore’s custom-designed Hi-Def IEM earphones during checkout, rather than needing to pay for them when they may already own a pair they love. Premium memory will be available as an option, with Callback defaulting to rigorously stress-tested “post-consumer” high-speed memory chips, backed by Commodore’s identical, comprehensive 1-Year warranty."
so.. to lower the retail by $100... earbuds not included, and reclaimed ewaste memory chips (hopefully that does not also include the main storage) now the default configuration.
Phones cheaper than USD$400 tend to have 4 year old chipsets*, so imo if they've beaten that, they've probably done well against the current market. By my standards a posture dumbphone should be cheaper, but it's obviously marketing to a different demographic than e.g. Oneplus Nord and the now-dead iPhone SE. At the very least it might be a cool museum piece
*modified for accuracy
What the heck‽ Is it gold-plated‽
Phone? No. But the CEO's yacht is.
As far as I remember comodore is owned by youtuber
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/commodores-been-bought-by-a-youtuber-whos-re-assembling-key-execs-and-already-teasing-new-hardware/
Amusingly, Commodore's statement says the [high prices were] triggered by an "explosion of new technologies" but stops short of specifying exactly what those technologies were. That perhaps shouldn't be surprising given Simpson's love of GenAI and its use in Commodore's promotional material thus far, but it's somewhat ironic that one of the reasons for the high price is, in Commodore's case, self-inflicted to a degree.)
I'm starting to dislike this CEO
The other big question, even though Simpson goes into some detail on this, is how the deal is going to be financed. A share purchase agreement is in place for those "low seven figures," Simpson says he's re-mortgaged to get this far, and adds that "household names who don't want to be named" are interested before name-dropping Elon Musk (whose computing career began on a Commodore). They're looking for angel investors, but there's no indication of the timeframe on any deal.
So it’s basically owned by musk, got it
He wouldn't be the first person begging Elon Musk for attention, though. Anybody remember Elon Goat Token?
Even if he doesn't secure Elon as an investor, the simping does not look good.
I work in product management, this was not a marketing ploy.
Supplies are expensive now. They are cutting into their margin considerably and probably did find some slightly cheaper components. Maybe they cut a better deal with the suppliers.
Either way, they are playing smart by listening to the market on an untested product in a new product category of “semi-smart” phones. This could signal a comeback of this type of product but only if they pave the way with affordability and usability.
I hope this does succeed for them because we need more companies taking risks in today’s market. Everything is so bland right now.
You can't claim privacy first, promise you wont sell user data, then preinstall whatsapp.
These three things cannot all be true. At any price.
Lol Whatsapp as a system app sounds like a nightmare.
The usuall approach established by Samsung etc. is to bundle a few "shim" apps as system apps for Meta. One shim is used by the regular Meta apps to bypass restrictions and talk to each other, one collects data from any app that uses the Meta ad network, and some are there in case you install the corresponding user app (eg. Facebook) to give it system privileges.
I mean it ends up technically the same as having Whatsapp bundled outright, but you gotta give props to a manufacturer so shamelss they don't even pretend to hide it. 😃
Translation: We couldn't really sell it for that price, now we try it with this price.
(Edit: This is no mockery, only of the marketing. The phone is nice)
$399, what? This is tech from over a decade ago, there are smart phones that sell for under $100. Seems like a stupid gimmick only wealthy parents will buy for their kids.
I'd do up to $200 for nostalgia (given inflation and component prices like RAM).
an incredible endorsement of our vision
Fake, and the price is still ridiculous. Nostalgia-bait as someone else said.
That’s more like it!
And I completely disagree with the people saying it should be much cheaper.
It’s a LTE Linux computer. In 2026. With multiple screens, a 48MP camera, good DAC, enough power to run real Android apps and tons of bells and whistles; what do you expect?
Electronics are expensive, unless it’s cheap garbage, heavily subsidized, or both. That has a huge externalized cost, and avoiding that is the whole point of this phone. R&D, customer service, and continued software support for the translation layer and OS, must crazy expensive too.
I know wages haven’t gone up with inflation, which makes $400 hard to afford, but that’s not in Commodore’s control.
If one wants a cheaper AliExpress Android fliphone, that’s reasonable.
But it’s not the same product. And you’re going to pay for it in other ways.
This, I think the price is decent. Most dumbphones are low cost but you notice it - terrible buttons, slow camera, lackluster audio. On top of that they have no coolness factor. This is a phone that ticks all boxes and is privacy friendly. On top of that, it is from a company I like to support.
Didn't Nokia still make dumbphone and only cost double digits? With $400 i can just get a decent smartphone and then install app locker and lock all irrelevant app in it.
Or get something that run on non-bloatware OS and don't download
They still do, HMD Global, a Finish company that started with ex Nokia employees and made the Nokia smartphones for Microsoft, also lives across from the Nokia headquarters in Finland and still makes dumb phones to this day:
Nostalgia-bait isn't going to make addictive social media go away, and these devices will probably end up with easily foiled workarounds to get to those services anyway.
Also, did Commodore even used to make flip phones? I had a legendary indestructible Nokia brick, Motorola flip phones, and one really shitty Samsung flip phone. I'd feel nostalgic for something from them if it had the same design (but not the shitty Samsung phone), not for a pseudo-oldschool actually-it's-just-Android-but-less-functional phone.
How about a phone for people who aren't addicted to them, but want the basics without being spied on?
Things I want in a phone:
I don't do anything else. Mostly my phone sits on my desk, ignored unless it makes a noise at me. I take it with me sometimes when I leave the house, but sometimes I don't bother--not addicted.
This can easily be achieved with most any Android phone.
doing this with a used pixel 8 pro bought off ebay.
lol, it’s worth $100
There’ll probably be several to choose from on AliExpress at that price point.
Really? I am in.
Holy shit you weren't kidding
Edit. fixed
holy mother of tracker URLs! lol
we fit all yer favorites in this sum bitch
That is concerning amount of query parameters.
Atari should make a pager. It also runs on Android software. It will cost $800. It comes with belt clip.
I'm still on the fence about it but the price drop does move the needle a little. I'm still going to wait to make a decision until it comes out then give it a couple of months.
"We worked tirelessly to lower the price...and by subtracting 100 we managed it goddammit"
So still $100 more than a LightPhone II, an already somewhat pricey 'detox phone', or about the same price as a used Moto RAZR if yoh just wanted a flippy phone made of pre-owned components
I have a dumb-phone. 20€. I had to buy a new one because the old one used only 2G and that infrastructure is gonna be put down sooner rather than later.
I don't get what they are trying to achieve with that thing.
I want one, but I don't think they're going to get the pricing near anywhere where it becomes a reality.
That said, I'm really happy that this product has at least started a conversation. I would 100% prefer a dumb flip phone than the advertising machine in my pocket. There is a suggestion of a market; we'll see if the industry is too far up their own ass to respond.
Sadly I don't think the revamped Commodore will have the clout to pull it off.
I'm more concerned about the dictatorial-feeling attitudes in the marketing than I am about the price. I'm all for a privacy respecting phone, but an even higher priority than that is respecting me and my choices. Blocking me from social media doesn't feel like it's catering to me, it feels like its nannying me and dictating my choices to me. That's not something I'm interested in at any price.
I realize that I will, in reality, be able to choose whether to leave those blocked, but having them blocked by default feels just as aggressively judgemental and disrespectful as preinstalling them and shoving them in my face like most existing brands do. It's not your place to tell me what apps to use or not to use. Give me a fucking blank slate, and let me decide, thankyouverymuch.
