I think Trump would say anything you want live on TV if you gave him like fifty dollars
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I'm pretty sure his initial promises to release the Epstein Files was him blackmailing the other perpetrators.
The way blackmailing works is, the blakmailer threatens the blackmailee to reveal their secrets.
Trump's secrets are already out there: he's a convicted rapist and his name appears more than a million times in the unredacted Epstein files - i.e. if he's not a fucking pedo, I'm the King of England. No blackmailer has anything on him that everybody doesn't already know.
So no.
Do you not realize, that there could be worse things out there of him? Unreleased and unredacted.
There are videos of him murdering children
Yeah, there's a fair chance that he might be a murderer also. That's also out there.
And not a single voter will care.
I think the problem is that the fraction of people you're referring to absolutely would care had they not been basically trained to reflexively dismiss claims of wrongdoing against "daddy" as "fake news". History is probably going to say trump was probably the most effective con man the world has ever seen.
I don’t think so. Trump is undoubtedly a con man. However, I think it’s going to be studies about the media and misinformation channels that dominate history books. Trump doesn’t have psychological insight. He acts on impulse and is a compulsive liar and narcissist. It’s how he was portrayed and how social media, in particular “engagement” driving views and clicks that will be studied. Obviously, the owners of these channels realised the power of the algorithm, just like previous oligarchs realised the value of newspapers and tv stations. It just became more hidden and personalised how we were being manipulated.
Do you not realize that anyone who doesn't care about everything we already know, is just going to continue to not care?
Do you not realize that there were so many pages redacted, and it wasn't just the victims?
Oh, I'm sure of it. The people who are going to care, already do, his sycophants will continue to support him NO MATTER WHAT.
True, evil people with money and money talks apparently.
Trump voters dont care if they are redacted or not. He is a cult leader. They will drink the kool aid because theyre narcissistics
So far he’s shown no sense of shame or even that his victims are people, and his followers don’t seem to care
Not many people with first hand knowledge and nobody prominent has revealed incontrovertible facts though. Anyone with half a brain who isn't obsessed with his pumpkin-painted dumb face knows he is guilty, of course, considering he said he was "best friends" with JE during JE's most unrestrained period. But still millions of people think there's no evidence, and the admin is still suppressing over 3 million documents and redacted the rest to hell.
Well, like I said previously, since it's just about impossible for ordinary folks to get the Epstein files released in full, we should all default to assuming all those mentioned in it are guilty - and since all those fuckers are rich and powerful and they can get the files released, if they want their names cleared, they can jolly well demand the release of the exculpatory evidence themselves.
And what's blindingly obvious, starting with the one pedo who's most mentioned in the files, is that they're not exactly rushing to demand the truth set free...
Trump’s secrets are already out there: he’s a convicted rapist and his name appears more than a million times in the unredacted Epstein files
They have pictures and videos of him raping and torturing small children. Possibly even eating them, if some rumors are true.
I think he might be too narcissistic (and stupid) for blackmail. First off, he’d lie to the blackmailers and regardless, he’d tell somebody else about it. He is the proverbial chess pigeon.
No. I think he's just the most visible psychopath in the room.
The true horror of Trump is not just the things he's done. Its that everyone now knows what he's done - and seemingly quite a lot of people don't really care.
I thought at first that he was likely being blackmailed by Israel - it's near certain that the Israeli government has at least as much evidence of his serial child rape as the US government does.
Mostly based on the way the whole war played out though, I tend more toward a different theory now.
I think Bibi convinced him that overthrowing Iran would be a cake walk - that just like Venezuela, they could go in fast and bomb the shit out of things and get rid of the Ayatollah and take over, and then Trump could get Narges Mohammadi out of prison and she'd be so thankful that she'd give him her Nobel medal, and then he'd be the bestest President ever in the history of ever because he'd have two Nobels (well - technically, he'd only have two Nobel medals, and claiming that he has a Nobel because he has a medal is sort of like claiming he's a Super Bowl champion because he has a ring, but he's too stupid to realize that).
And everything played out just as intended, right up to the point that Iran didn't collapse and instead just calmly set about replacing the Ayatollah and systematically bombing American bases and property all around the Middle East while closing down the Strait of Hormuz. And he's been desperately flailing around and throwing tantrums ever since, because that wasn't what Bibi promised.
Both of these possibilities could be true, of course.
The latter theory also is how I believe Trump was persuaded to start military action against Iran. But I think it is also highly likely that the Israelis have dirt on Trump via Epstein, who had ties with Mossad and frequently fraternized with top-ranking Israeli officials.
However, to leak this information publicly could cause some major blowback, given how unpredictable a cornered Trump would be. It's easy to imagine him going on a live newsfeed and start throwing all kinds of people under the bus if he thought he had nothing left to lose.
Oh definitely.
I didn't shift to the "breeze in and get another Nobel medal" theory because I changed my mind about Israel likely having plenty of material with which to blackmail the rapist-in-chief - I have no doubt that they do. I just think that appealing to his ego and his childlike desire for recognition would've been seen to be a better approach, and having a Nobel winner in prison in Iran was just too perfect an opportunity to miss.
And yes to the blowback, but I'd go much further. I think that if he thought he was cornered and his ego was at risk, he wouldn't even hesitate to start a nuclear war if nothing else seemed likely to save him from exposure.
I wish I was kidding.
I agree with you but I really wish people would stop calling him 'Bibi'. He's not our buddy, or some boisterous but quirky and lovable uncle figure from reality TV. He's a war criminal responsible for genocide, aided and abetted by other politicians who have been so close to him for so long that they have an affectionate nickname for him.
Does it even matter? Even if you remove everything about Epstein and Iran from the conversation, he is still objectively a shitty person and one of the most incompetent and self serving people to hold high office in a country that elects its leaders.
You would probably have to go back 100 years to find someone that is the head of state in a country that is a major player on the world stage to find someone that is as unfit for the job as Trump.
You would probably have to go back 100 years to find someone that is the head of state in a country that is a major player on the world stage to find someone that is as unfit for the job as Trump.
I don't want to be that guy but I guarantee there's some pretty unfit people who have recently led the UK and we got Putin in Russia right now.
I don't think you have to go back in time at all.
If Donald Trump isn't an actual pedophile in the Epstein files, he is absolutely being blackmailed by pedophiles who are in the Epstein files.
The only other explanation is that he is so fantastically stupid that he is behaving like he is being blackmailed by pedophiles without actually being blackmailed by pedophiles. And while I wouldn't put it past him to be that stupid, I'm pretty sure he's either a pedophile and/or being blackmailed by pedophiles.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that he is being paid to destroy the US.
What are you going to blackmail him with? Being a foreign asset? Grifting and embezzling the fuck out of the country? Raping and trafficking children?
He already publicly does/did all those things. He isn't being blackmailed, he's just a run-of-the-mill rich dumbass.
Don't you know there are files not redacted?... Not just victims. Looks like much worse.
They redacted victims?
It's all not just the victims and you know that. The predators names are redacted too.
I think he's being blackmailed and has been blackmaled.
Blackmailed yes, stupid yes, a pedophile yes, a Russian spy yes.
I mean, does it even matter? If Americans havent banded together and gotten rid of him by now with everything that has happened with this and outside of this - then its just a drop of water in the ocean
I think it's tacit. He knows who could blackmail him.
Looks like israel has compromising material. Also russia. Also that absurd iran deal? Likely they bought intel on him. Probably costed about 300m.
No, that’s giving Trump too much credit. He’s shown us over and over that he’s interested in personal gain, easily manipulated, and is fine with outright bribery. Blackmail seems like the hard way of getting things done
Absolutely no doubt about it he is or was being blackmailed to some degree. But now he's acting like he isn't. It's entirely possible that counter intelligence retrieved the blackmail that israel had on trump? Which would be easy to do ~~under the~~ ~~cover~~ with the chaos of iran war.
During the earlier portion of this conflict trump did several off again on again, changing his mind rapidly, kind of things. I find this very indicative of being blackmailed or coerced
Eh, I'd say he was being blackmailed, but its hard to imagine him giving a shit, or being cogent enough to give a shit now.
A) Trump's dementia is well known at this point; his positions literally always align either perfectly with or against the last person he speaks to. Man's brain is soup. His flipflopping on Iran comes down to whether he last spoke with Lindsay Graham, Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Benjamin Netanyahu, or JD Vance. Graham walks in, graham walks out, we're at war. Hegseth walks in then out, now we're bombing kids. Rubio walks in then out, now we're open to negotiations (and invading Cuba). Netanyahu, back to bombing kids. Vance, now we're surrendering. Graham again, now we're threatening to kill diplomats.
B) For as soup as he is, I think he gets that no one he cares about gives a shit what he's done. Everyone already knows he's a pedophile, his supporters just don't care enough to grapple with it, and any meaningful opposition isn't capable of or willing to do a damn thing. Honestly I'm surprised he doesn't brag about it at this point.
Didn't someone have kompromat on him from like 2015 where he was pissing on escorts in a bed Obama slept in at a hotel or some petty, childish shit like that?
Maxwell is living it up at what amounts to a college dorm room instead of where she should be, which is front and center on the gallows.
What makes you think he's being blackmailed? War is a business, they don't care about people, they are fine with what israel is doing and supporting it, being able to blame someone for it is a bonus point.
He absolutely is beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind. I would say the majority of the politicians in the west are. Thiel and palantir are a new Epstein/ghisine Mossad blackmail operation
How do you blackmail a person who feels no shame? Could only be about his money. And I don't see any angle, say, the Russians or the Israeli government has there to make him worried. So even if they are sitting on solid evidence of him eating babies on the island that won't be nearly enough to put pressure on him. Unless it's scientific evidence that his hands are too small. And he'll just fake-news-stonewall that until he'll cover the Lincoln Memorial in gold or something, just to move the media cycle along.
47 thinks he's smart but he is at best NYC realtor smart. With a touch of the mob, maybe. He's severely undereducated as a president. More so than W by a factor of 1000. But he Peter principled himself into positions where he is unimpeachable or people are afraid to tell him when he's wrong. He shows a persistent pattern of parroting the opinion of the last man he spoke with. He is larping the Emperor's New Clothes fairy tale with an ego that needs constant praise, his own in a pinch. You don't need to blackmail a person like that. Praise him, flatter him, promise him money and good headlines and he happily will kill a minimum of two of his children.
Netanyahu sent him down the garden path on Iran. And now he'll get a deal that's worse than the Obama one he derided. Which I'm sure he never read. Because he only absorbs about one page of content if it's nicely spaced and contains pictures. Per week.
Absolutely.
His ego is way too big to be putting up with Israel's antics with Iran and Lebanon otherwise. Israel is making him look like a clown and he normally wouldn't stand it without at least 1 massive meltdown on social media about it.
Repeatedly
Almost all politicians are. And Epstein wasn't the only operator. Today's politicians act like they are, and Epstine's operation was too far in the past for most of them.
Blackmail mills blackmail a lot people. If you had political finance money, would you finance the campaign of someone who says they are aligned with you, or someone you know will stay aligned with you? Power isn't given to un-blackmailed people. And people who want power know this. So there is a long list of people willing to get blackmailed to get into power. They may even enjoy the part that gets them blackmailed.