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[–] drphungky@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I'm all for delivery robots. The idea of having people in gas guzzling cars taking up huge amounts of city space while polluting, just so you can have a private taxi for your burrito is crazy. The main issue here is them taking up sidewalk infrastructure instead of car infrastructure. Fix that and we've got absolutely no problems. Tiny electric vehicles SHOULD be delivering things. Fixing this infrastructure problem is another great time to fix deliveries in general blocking side lanes, bike lanes, and slowing traffic where it does actually need to flow.

While we're at it, fix all traffic. Switch to a modified Dutch design of three types of roads (highways, distributor roads, and access roads) to further eliminate car interactions with pedestrians, cyclist, and yes probably small bot interactions. They should only be mixing on access roads. Dedicated and separated car lanes, bike lanes, and walking paths, and shared delivery lanes for bots and manned cars on access roads. It'll take time, but a simple plan and slow progress will eventually fix things and cause less havoc like adding cars did to cities that were all horse based.

[–] ProfessorScience@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If one of these bumped into me I feel like I'd want to tip it over in response.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to the Resistance. Simple steps like this are the right response.

TBH I think I’m at the rebellious point of do it without it bumping into me. Steal it’s cargo and dump it somewhere.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Saw a video of one of these things at an intersection asking a pedestrian to hit the walk button for it. He just laughed and said nope. I bet a real person could hit the button.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing is it it was an overall fair system most people would get along with the machines. But capitalists and ‘leaders’ have started to make us hate it.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These must be pretty haltable tbh. Either by covering the lidar and I am guessing there will be a safety stop button somewhere. What happens then can the be force rebooted?

And how do they cross the road can the be fooled? Are they crossing after a sound occurs or is it a can see them being gps.

It’s gonna take bunches of us rounding them up like sheep and hearding them towards a locked field.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They'll have cameras and gps though. So be careful, the cops might protect it more than humans. Catch it in a faraday cage maybe.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

The cops are here to protect the property of the higher class, of course they'll protect it more

[–] teft@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They seem portable enough to lug to a river which is exactly where it would go if one hit me or anyone i was with.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 3 days ago

Just don’t leave it there though, the world is already so polluted.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Well you definitely can't let it leave after hitting you, it's got to remain at the scene to exchange insurance information. Hit and runs should be treated the same as a delivery driver hitting someone then leaving the scene.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I wouldn’t just feel it, it would be on its side.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 57 points 3 days ago (5 children)

A lot of sidewalks in major cities don't have room for these. Especially if you account for traffic, light, and power poles, street signs, bus and trolley stops, subway and El entrances, sidewalk trees, garbage, trash and recycling bins, sidewalk grates, cellar entries, cracked sidewalks, etc, etc, etc. And suddenly you're being asked to give up one piece of space that's supposedly reserved for you, to yet another 'move fast, break things, get permission later' techbro "innovation" that no one's asked for.

There's no regulation over them, no standards that they have to follow or how to behave, no way for the public to specifically identify a robot when they encounter it in public (like, say, your robot ran into my car or whatever).

I'd only allow them if each robot carried a certain amount of insurance, was registered and had some kind of license plate, had turn signals (I don't know if they do, the ones I saw didn't), had limited operating hours and locations, were forced to move aside for humans, etc - basically make them the absolute lowest priority thing on the streets and sidewalks. Streets, bike lanes, sidewalks, subways, etc, were each built for specific forms of human movement. If techbros want to introduce a new type of system, they should be forced to build their own infrastructure to support it (no idea what that looks like for delivery robots), instead of just blatantly overloading already-stressed public infrastructure.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

they should be forced to build their own infrastructure to support it (no idea what that looks like for delivery robots)

Tunnels, at least in heavily populated areas. They already make pipes that should be big enough. It might require a slight redesign of the bots so that they can "climb the wall" a short distance to pass each other, and maybe extend/retract some bits depending on whether they're inside or out, but my heart would not exactly bleed over the money spent. And they'd be out of sight, out of mind most of the time for the rest of us.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they are going to put in tunnels, they may as well just put in a pneumatic tube system so the robots wouldn't be needed.

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[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Food in the tunnels is how you get even more rats... And what would happen when one breaks inside. What about rotting food spillage.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

They obviously need to design cleaning robots and rat-catching robots and repair robots to support the delivery robots. I mean, we could have an entire robot ecology here, living unnoticed under the city streets.

[–] SMillerNL@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

A lot of sidewalks in major cities don't have room for these. Especially if you account for traffic, light, and power poles, street signs, bus and trolley stops, subway and El entrances, sidewalk trees, garbage, trash and recycling bins, sidewalk grates, cellar entries, cracked sidewalks, etc, etc, etc.

That’s pretty awful because it seems to me they take about the same space as a wheelchair.

[–] 123@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago

It would be somewhat ironic if actual side walks were implemented to support these things on those affluent car dependent neighborhoods and people discovered cars should not be the focus when designing roads.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 38 points 3 days ago

No wonder. The roads are not built for these things and nobody expects them there.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago

In Atlanta last year, I watched one of these turning in tight circles for a couple minutes before I got bored and moved on. At least it wasn’t in the street.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

To be fair, the delivery robots I've seen (made by Yandex, which is known for bleeding-edge developments in self-driving technology) made good job to be as unobtrusive and predictable as possible, while also avoiding humans in quite a large range.

My only issue with them is that these are camera-equipped devices rolling the streets and likely sending all that footage to their Big Tech daddies. Besides that, they do their job well, reducing the need for hard human labor.

[–] YabbaDabbaDipshit@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I'm sure the people who were surviving off that hard human labor are thrilled

[–] drphungky@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

"Won't someone think of the buggy whip makers?"

Not saying you're against it, but having an actual social safety net and not worrying about particular industries/workers/special interests is a WAY better way to think about governance and change.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m surprised that those who lost the work aren’t administers or some beneficiary of it. UBI seems to be the way??

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck you botly, I'm going clankertipping

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

"THAT'S CALLED CLANKTIPPING! HA HA!"

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What law would I potentially break if I tipped one over?

I've never seen one IRL where I live, they wouldn't make much sense in suburbia, but I suppose I might come across one someday, if they keep multiplying.

[–] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fall over in front of it and sue the Conisbrough for damages. If it's got wheels it's a fucking car and it should be on the road.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 14 points 2 days ago

If it's got wheels it's a fucking car and it should be on the road.

Professor Xavier stares menacingly

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So little kids on bikes should be on the road? Skateboards should be on the roads? Wheelchairs should be on the road?

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[–] phx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm kinda surprised that these things aren't being stripped for parts by meth-heads TBH

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Probably property damage. Same as if you stomped a kid's radio controlled car.

[–] michaelalf@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You don't have to damage it though... Just gently roll it on it's side for a little nap.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Tape over all its cameras and sensors.

Disconnect its battery.

Remove at least one tire.

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[–] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What is you just put a cup over its lidar sensor.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Or put a traffic cone in front and behind it? Definitely don't do that though, it's possibly illegal.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

This is just one of many, many pieces of technology that have been just put into public from tech companies whether we like it or now. And they do it because they know there is no regulation, nor will there be anytime soon to reign it in.

[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Kick the fucking things into the street

[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you see one chuck it in the river

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Please don't pollute the rivers. Do something else please.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m not really bothered by these things. I walk around them just like I have to walk around humans and their detritus.

[–] SouthEndSunset@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Might not be that easy if you’re disabled, elderly, blind, or just not looking.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Seriously. Already annoyed enough at cyclists coming from behind who refuse to slow down and assume you can hear their stupid high pitch bells (not if you have hearing loss).

[–] toebert@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

This may provide the first actual usecase for SUVs in cities. They seem to be about as tall as a child, so presumably invisible for the suv drivers.

Hopefully the robots will get mowed down when trying to cross the street.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago

Every day Bender seems more and more realistic.

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