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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

~~fighting back~~ doubling down on near slavery conditions when confronted with their bullshit

FTFY

Fuck everything about tipping, tipping must be prohibited by law

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Everyone who gives their life to a job deserves a living wage.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine many people don't know about tipping culture. But I'd imagine it'd pop up if you look online for American customs. I'd say this one's on the tourists for not researching appropriately

[–] Iksbat@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

T'is people travelling willingly to USA in current time. Don't think they are thinking about local customs.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 37 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"European restaurants pay staff like any other profession and workers don’t rely on tips, so customers assume they’ve already paid for service".

Europeans are right on this one. The more years go by, the more I find tipping to be ridiculous. Tell me upfront what you expect, then I'll choose where to eat. Managers must adapt to customers, not us do their minimum wage employment practice.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can't even buy a non-alcoholic drink at most of these places for what they're paying as an hourly wage.

Of course, there's also the problem that most waitstaff make way more than the business would ever pay them and generally prefer tip+minimum.

It's the reason that we never stopped doing it. The business owners don't want to stop, the staff doesn't want to stop. The patrons have no measure to see if they're getting fucked, so we just deal with it.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We know about that extra 10% to 15% exception by custom. But anywhere else, the full price is displayed. I actually think it should be the same for taxes. Hiding the tax amount is a bias to help the merchant be more attractive by displaying lower prices.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

We know about that extra 10% to 15% exception by custom.

They actually get angry and insulted at "just" 10% to 15%. The standard has somehow risen to 20% at a minimum!

[–] Thrife@feddit.org 32 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Greetings from Europe, we're not baffled. We just don't play your game. Start paying your workers properly.

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[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 32 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

We come from nations where staff get paid at least the minimum wage and don't rely on tips to make it up to that.

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[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

There is a no tipping culture in Europe.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There is a tipping culture, there's just no tipping for the bare minimum service of taking an order and bringing the ordered food to the table.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I was just in Paris and Amsterdam and no tipping needed. You could, but it definitely wasn't forced like it is here. Servers would often remind us it wasn't required.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, it's for exceptional service, most service isn't exceptional.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

lmao NY Post getting pissy over what they call barbarians not leaving tips.

Ignoring the reality the unwritten rule of tipping for exceptional service was taken over by the restaurants and turned the gesture into a formality serving the owners, and the waiters now get gypped below minimum wage.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The way to vote with your wallet on this is to not go to the restaurant, not to still go and then be an asshole to the underpaid staff. Not leaving a tip doesn't hurt the exploitative restaurateur or the system you "disagree with" but are still willfully participating in as far as it suits you. Also, fuck the Post.

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