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OK, let's try this again. My post got auto-filtered. Maybe the image triggered something? Anyways, apologies if this isn't the right sub for this. I wanted to get an outsider's perspective on my experience on Lemmy.

Every. Single. Thread. has the word “capitalism” or “Trump” in it somewhere. I’m sick to death of it. Even though I agree with a lot of the sentiment, the erosion of the middle class, the concentration of wealth, the consolidation of media, the “you will own nothing and be happy” mentality permeating the consumer space. In many ways that’s why I joined Lemmy, but dang it that doesn’t mean I want to talk about absolutely nothing else. Someone once defined a fanatic as "Someone who won't change their mind and won't change the subject" and that fits the average Lemming to a T.

And the only communities devoid of politics are also devoid of content. I do a lot of worldbuilding stuff, and I’ve tried to make the worldbuilding community there more active, but sometimes I feel like I’m the only poster. Then I look at r/worldbuilding, and there’s a glut of really interesting posts showcasing people’s imagination and creativity, and nary a mention of Musk or Epstein in sight.

I understand that people's political opinions are bound to show up obliquely in even unrelated communities, but I can't overstate how monomaniacal Lemmings are about it. The pic I originally tried to post was a screenshot of a completely non sequitur post in an unrelated community (sorry for the vagueness I think the specifics may have also tripped the auto filter). And Lemmings are always "on". If you go to mildlyinteresting on lemmy.world right now, you'll see maybe one or two posts about things like yellow stop signs or three-chambered peanuts, you know, stuff that's actually mildly interesting, and every other post is stuff like "French president explains the political consequences of AI". Is that important and worth discussing? Absolutely. What it isn't is mildly interesting.

When I bring this up on Lemmy, the response is always "Politics is everything and we should never shut up ever!" But even Anne Frank wrote about other stuff in her diary sometimes.

And then there’s the tech side of things. Hope you like Linux, cuz that’s all you’re going to see. And if you dare suggest that Linux may not be the right choice for your blind grandmother, you get eviscerated in the comments.

Granted, Reddit itself used to have a similar problem. It attracted a very specific type of user (neckbeards) and the experience wasn’t great if you weren’t one, but ironically the same popularization of Reddit that lead to its platform decay also solved this homogeneity problem. Similarly, Tankies and their ilk seem to flock to Lemmy, explaining the tone of the discourse.

Others have pointed out that Reddit alternatives tend to attract people who were banned from Reddit (remember Voat?) and I think that explains a lot.

In summary, Lemmy seems great if you're a Marxist who uses Linux, but pretty much nobody else. Am I crazy? Should I try to stick with it in the hope it gets better?

so how do we get this guy on Linux? lol

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[–] araneae@beehaw.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The Anne Frank quote. Doesn't it disprove the OPs point? If Anne Frank had spent a lot of time writing about her favorite fictional rock orbiting Pluto whose name was Jeremy the Rock, that would be a political topic like all other things in her diary because after she wrote that diary she was checks notes murdered for her ethnicity. The only children's diaries that necessarily aren't political are the ones we never read and the ones not penned by murder victims. Like you bitch about Lemmy culture all you want but you're the one who brought up a murder victim's last words, which are THE symbol of banal hatred of the innocent that people use to teach the tragedy of the Holocaust, BECAUSE what was written there was so completely innocent.

I guess I forgot how much redditors think, but never think about Anne Frank.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I mean, he's not too far off. Lemmy is not big enough to support the same amount of communities as reddit does. Right now Lemmy can support tabletop RPG but not world building

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They are far from the first person who has bailed on Lemmy because of the culture, and their characterization of it isn't far off. I keep saying that Lemmy needs normies for longevity, because most people find constantly on politics incredibly exhausting and won't want to join if they think it's the lefty version of Truth Social.

I'm not saying people should avoid talking about stuff they care about, just that the platform could benefit from everyone being less hostile to wider perspectives and maybe also working on building up more content without a heavy political focus.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean... it also sounds like someone browsing ALL or similar, without having taken the time to curate their personal feed. I don't see that as a Fediverse-issue really, but a characteristic of most social media platforms, including Reddit.

Do zero work to set your account up (or don't even have one), and you'll pretty much get the shittiest browsing experience out of all possibilities.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

I don't even remember how I started browsing reddit, and later on participate. But I do know that somewhere down the line I subscribe to subreddots that I like and don't ever browse all. So on my third attempt in Lemmy, I did the same thing I'm used to on reddit, and use piefed instead. Can't stress enough piefed is really the concrete of my foundation staying here. The topics really do make it a bit less stale

OOP still has a good point about being the only poster of smaller less active comms though. I do sometimes comment but yeah I am not a really poster.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Being less hostile overall would be a huge plus.

And I don't mean that people can't criticize or provide constructive feedback. But it can be disheartening to see an interesting thread, sometimes a "normie" thread, and every comment is just negative.

It's fun to talk about stuff you like. It keeps people coming back.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

as a long time lemming i will respond with the standard lemmy response:

go back to reddit you fascist, child murdering, genocide supporter

i wonder why people get put off. when your active population might be up to 20% of rabid radicalized leftists how do you expect anything to do with current affairs to go

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[–] Forester@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

My main gripe here is the .ml people. It's not that they believe in that system it's that they refuse to have any conversation where they don't hamfist it into the conversation and paint every other system as unfiltered intentional evil while completely excusing any critism of their chosen systems and government. Also the bot sock and alt brigades that seem to exclusively come from those comms.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Original OP here. They muted and permabanned me from the sub. If I came off dismissive or angry it's because I'm frustrated with the state of the fediverse. I want Lemmy et al. to succeed despite its issues. If I thought it was utter crap I'd just ignore it. I was trying to present my subjective experience in good faith and I hope it came out that way.

I'm a troll, apparently

so how do we get this guy on Linux? lol

Make a screen reader and magnifier that actually work.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They muted and permabanned me from the sub.

In my response to this post earlier, I mentioned that one of the problems (which unfortunately reddit shares too) is hostility to other viewpoints, and this is a good example of how that is perpetuated. When a culture on a platform is too homogeneous, disagreement becomes so shocking that it's seen as "trolling", "bad faith", "offensive", etc. I think it's partially a symptom of the reddit-like structure of voting + active moderation, but it's also very much the culture.

You presented your points well and fairly, and even if you hadn't, I think we all need to get comfortable with the fact that normal humans sometimes interact in a manner that doesn't sound like an HR mediation session, and that's ok too.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

it’s partially a symptom of the reddit-like structure of voting

Voting is a cancer upon social media. It was extra bad on Reddit because you had a cumulative karma score that was just begging to be farmed, and it's only slightly less bad on Lemmy because there's no global karma here. Voting encourages echo chambers because the top stuff is stuff that the majority likes and contrary opinions get buried. It also creates a Mathew effect by ensuring posts that are already popular get even more visibility.

It's also terrible because IMO it promotes social media addiction. It's way too easy to tie your self esteem to a number. Modern reddit is banking on this hard. Between the time I left in 2023 and returned a few weeks ago, they started sending you notifications every time your post or comment hits certain upvote milestones.

There's exactly one legitimate use for voting systems IMO and that's in practical or technical Q&A spaces (think Stack Exchange) where there are definitive right or best answers. Voting in this case allows people unfamiliar with the topic to zero in on what's good advice vs what's nonsense.

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[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A lot of the issues you have with Lemmy is in large part because there’s less people here than Reddit. You really have to curate your subscriptions page to get that kind of algorithm treatment you’re used to from Reddit. There’s a lot of communities here that don’t hit the top posts in all but are still active.

You also kinda have to be the change you want to see and be stubborn about it. Keep posting things you find interesting, throw out those comments on posts even if there’s no other comments or motion. A new community isn’t going to get built up overnight.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

lemmy lacks the niche content that reddit has, and people on reddit are unlikely to subscribe to here anytime soon, since most dont even known lemmy exist. often time when they get banned they look for ways to evade those bans instead.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Might I offer you ~~an egg~~ trying piefed instances in these trying times?

Sorry for assuming but if you don't know Lemmy is just but one way to wrangle together the fediverse into a link aggregator style website. Piefed is another one.

What I like about piefed, and what made me stick, is the on boarding for new users. At least in the flagship instance, piefed.social, new users, up front, would have the option to choose topics you'd like to see, terms you'd like to block and then you'll have a curated feed ready to go. And at least in piefed.social they keep updating the topics. I'll say that in comparison, topics is llike multireddits. You can use the instance's topics, and can make more yourself. IIRC. It works in lieu of the algorithm reddit has. Practically for me it is the algorithm for me.

Also don't hesitate blocking communities and users. I just started blasting anything I am not interested into my block list.

Edit: another tip. I find using "Hot (Scaled)" sorting will bump up the smaller, lesser active comms' posts more in your feed. Whether that be All, Local or Subscribed.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you want technical niche comms, it's dead. Or it's overrun with people performatively whinging about AI.

In the last month I've just about had enough of it. I'm 3 years into the fediverse and I'm done with the drama.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, technical niches are what dragged me back to Reddit. I've been struggling with a very specific issue at work for months. The entire time I was like "You know you couldjust ask on the right subreddit and get an answer in 5 minutes." But no. I stubbornly refused to make a new account. Two weeks ago I caved. Made an account and asked my question. Got an answer in 5 minutes.

The fediverse simply can't achieve that depth of community knowledge if it refuses to let "normies" in.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

You have to start out with the whole feed and then just block things until it becomes your home feed.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fair in many respects but also I think he may be unaware of the ideologies that go unchallenged and invisibly by in his "non political" communities. Sorry we're woke and notice things??

... if you dare suggest that Linux may not be the right choice for your blind grandmother, you get eviscerated in the comments.

Stopped reading here, this is just the view of someone who isn't used to being in a community that treats windows as the few facto choice.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whenever I recommend Lemmy/Piefed to a friend, I point them to a feed with low/no politics and low/no tech:

[–] IndigoForever@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Thank god and thank you, I dunno why the spam of politics is there. I go to protests every time, vote every election, etc. but it’s mentally exhausting I just want to chill.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I just noticed that Lemmy defaults to showing you a feed of all local communities when you open the homepage instead of subscriptions. There doesn't seem to be a way to change that. I'm bombarded with the ragebait and doomerism that suffuses typical Lemmy discourse as soon as I open the homepage, and I have to click a button to tell the server "now show me what I actually want to see".

Yes I know you can block communities, but maintaining a list of blocked instances, comms, and users feels like playing a game of whack-a-mole. If people here were more chill I might feel differently, but the rage shows up in the weirdest places you'd never expect, and not even in an organic way.

It's such a tiny change, but I think defaulting to showing a user's subscriptions rather than the local feed, only falling back to local if the user isn't signed in or if the user has no subscriptions, would make a huge difference.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Seems right, except I don't think that it's mostly people who were banned from Reddit.

There's too few users here to keep the niche communities alive. That's why only politics gets discussed, because that's something affecting everyone regardless of interest.

We also don't have a lot of original content. Neither did Reddit originally, but they managed to get a massive userbase through the AMA subreddit giving users the possibility to ask celebrities questions. This often got picked up by the tabloid news which spread the word of it's existence. It turned out that their AMAs was basically a one person job anyway. I don't think they've done anything remotely useful since that to justify their userbase.

Anyway. I kind of like the slower pace here. I went to Reddit the other day after years of hiatus. I don't know why anyone would want to sign up for that site anymore. Everything there seems to drown in advertising and generic shit. Even if Lemmy should shut down for some reason, I would not go back to the garbage piles on Reddit.

I use a local instance and I think they do a good job of facilitating debate and local insights on local news. I suppose that's the main purpose of this kind of forum. All the other larger and more international instances are just entertainment to me. I could get by just fine without seeing another Trump meme ever again. Unless it's really funny.

I'm pretty sure Lemmy does have potential to use these communities better. It's a lot of clever people. I think if anyone can and wants to make more original content with Lemmy as a base, just for the sake of it, they should just go ahead do it. The admins and mods are too busy running the sites, so we shouldn't expect them to it.

Understandably, artists probably want a larger market exposure for a start, but other kinds of projects might be suitable. I remember someone have tried making a group for game development on Reddit several times. It always fails, because they're too big and not committed. I also participated in a sub for random users writing on the same book. That was mildly succesful, and a lot easier to do. Stuff like that might make sense to try.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Lemmy is split into four categories across two criteria:

Whether they're banned or not from Reddit, and of they still want to be on Reddit or not.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is just low population problems, with ten times the pop, we would have different challenges. I agree with you mostly, but even still memes here are just better. Whenever I take a dangerous peek back at reddit is like they opened the 9gag gates, wtf.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I think that this is accurate, but it doesnt make it not a problem right now. After all, you get more posts by getting more people by having enjoyable-to-consume content.

I think most people on reddit (ie, the 90% who don't have an account) are simply happy to look at 9gag shit. "Bored. Look at reddit. Guy fall down funny. Giggle."

Of people who make an account, 90% simply look at the default feed. They are the internet troglodytes who have no interest in having any actual discussion, but who simply feel a desperate need to say literally anything in a public space. "FIRST!!!"

And then there are the 1% of redditors like OOP, who have been on the site for years and who have found niche communities they like to hang out in. These communities have far less bot penetration, and tend to have higher quality posts in general.

OOP is the sort of person Lemmy could use more of, but is running into a bootstrapping problem with.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

I opened reddit for the first time in like 6 months and the site takes 5 minutes to load, random ai trash, half the screen is "click on this you'll find it more interesting!!" made it nearly unusable. Also the huge concentration of bots on reddit, lemmy feels like I'm talking to real people.

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 23 points 2 days ago

Valid criticism, some valid observations. But also you need to make sure you're looking at the majority of federated sites, not just one server for activity.

The majority of my posts and interests are not covered by my home instance yet. I still have a great time on this platform.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (11 children)

This person is 100% about the relentless usaian political whinging. It's so hard to find anything cool and fun on here.

Slrpnk had more but got blown up and unrelenting drama seeking "power users" (lmao) drove off most of the interesting people.

Same thing happened to masto

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Find a Lemmy instance that heavily moderates political speech, then. That may be hard to find since Lemmy is full of people who expressed their political opinions on reddit and were banned.

The people coming here after the third party API shutdown, I'm sorry, but you made a political protest. You are doing the politics. If you don't like what Reddit is doing as a company, you are engaging in politics. You need to stop expressing your personal opinions and views for Reddit if you want to claim political apathy. Otherwise, you are engaging in political speech, and that's "bad" apparently, so stop it!

[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Skill issue. To be less flippant, you have to do some work up front and there is no algorithm to do it for you. I have an account on a few instances and between them I have plenty of variety and activity in spaces that are not just politically focused. Try other strategies if the one you're using doesn't yield the results you want.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The person who typed this out has definitely been putting in the effort in worldbuilding.

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[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, there’s other stuff here, you just have to look for it a bit

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finding them shouldn’t be so hard though. Surely we can make the search function better. If I search for a community I’d at least like to be greeted by the most active versions at the top. I’ve no idea how it ranks them right now.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 9 points 2 days ago

yea https://lemmyverse.net/communities is better for that

also we should probably have starter packs of communities for users to subscribe to, I know Lemmy v1.0 will allow us to do this, and PieFed already can do this (but I think it's underutilized for this purpose)

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