OK, let's try this again. My post got auto-filtered. Maybe the image triggered something? Anyways, apologies if this isn't the right sub for this. I wanted to get an outsider's perspective on my experience on Lemmy.
Every. Single. Thread. has the word “capitalism” or “Trump” in it somewhere. I’m sick to death of it. Even though I agree with a lot of the sentiment, the erosion of the middle class, the concentration of wealth, the consolidation of media, the “you will own nothing and be happy” mentality permeating the consumer space. In many ways that’s why I joined Lemmy, but dang it that doesn’t mean I want to talk about absolutely nothing else. Someone once defined a fanatic as "Someone who won't change their mind and won't change the subject" and that fits the average Lemming to a T.
And the only communities devoid of politics are also devoid of content. I do a lot of worldbuilding stuff, and I’ve tried to make the worldbuilding community there more active, but sometimes I feel like I’m the only poster. Then I look at r/worldbuilding, and there’s a glut of really interesting posts showcasing people’s imagination and creativity, and nary a mention of Musk or Epstein in sight.
I understand that people's political opinions are bound to show up obliquely in even unrelated communities, but I can't overstate how monomaniacal Lemmings are about it. The pic I originally tried to post was a screenshot of a completely non sequitur post in an unrelated community (sorry for the vagueness I think the specifics may have also tripped the auto filter). And Lemmings are always "on". If you go to mildlyinteresting on lemmy.world right now, you'll see maybe one or two posts about things like yellow stop signs or three-chambered peanuts, you know, stuff that's actually mildly interesting, and every other post is stuff like "French president explains the political consequences of AI". Is that important and worth discussing? Absolutely. What it isn't is mildly interesting.
When I bring this up on Lemmy, the response is always "Politics is everything and we should never shut up ever!" But even Anne Frank wrote about other stuff in her diary sometimes.
And then there’s the tech side of things. Hope you like Linux, cuz that’s all you’re going to see. And if you dare suggest that Linux may not be the right choice for your blind grandmother, you get eviscerated in the comments.
Granted, Reddit itself used to have a similar problem. It attracted a very specific type of user (neckbeards) and the experience wasn’t great if you weren’t one, but ironically the same popularization of Reddit that lead to its platform decay also solved this homogeneity problem. Similarly, Tankies and their ilk seem to flock to Lemmy, explaining the tone of the discourse.
Others have pointed out that Reddit alternatives tend to attract people who were banned from Reddit (remember Voat?) and I think that explains a lot.
In summary, Lemmy seems great if you're a Marxist who uses Linux, but pretty much nobody else. Am I crazy? Should I try to stick with it in the hope it gets better?
so how do we get this guy on Linux? lol
This person is 100% about the relentless usaian political whinging. It's so hard to find anything cool and fun on here.
Slrpnk had more but got blown up and unrelenting drama seeking "power users" (lmao) drove off most of the interesting people.
Same thing happened to masto
Could you elaborate what you mean? I've been a slrpnk admin for near 3 years, and I haven't seen any power user drama addicts on the instance. I'm also not sure what you mean by blown up (too popular? We're still a smallish instance with 380 monthly users).
Personally I think we still have quite a lot of interesting posts and discussions in our communities.
Bad phrasing, me ahh culp ah :p
-loads of downtime and unreliable access caused pop to drop (only unique problem)
slrpnk suffers from the same problem as the rest of lemmy with posts being drowned out by like 5 people posting 20 things a day to low effort communities.
The harrassing coms on lemmy (I don't think there are any on slrpnk to your credit) like shitXssay and stuff drove off users that didn't want to get recruited into useless conflict.
Ah, I see.
Slrpnk went down only twice for an extended period in the 4 years its been up, each time only for about a week before it was fixed and back online. Both times were due to unforeseen hardware issues (since it's self-hosted and running on solar power, in-line with our ideals). Without trying to offend, I think you may have an exaggerated view of how unreliable our server has been. Our uptime over 4 years is 98.91%.
We also didn't see any lengthy drop of our active monthly users. Once they discovered we were back up, our numbers returned to normal, and we've continued to see steady growth, with a consistent active monthly userbase, per our fediverse observer stats:
To your second point, I believe it is relatively easy for a user to block those more active communities if they dislike them.
I'm not the person you have to convince lol. Also around half of every day I try I can't hit slrpnk.
Reacting to criticism of lemmy by getting defensive is part of why lemmy continues to suck.
Just look at the instance's front page atm. When a user logs in they see a lot of reposted news and posts by like 5 different people.
One discussion about foraging, nothing creative or original. These are hard problems to address but they're why people bounce.
I obviously visit Slrpnk very often each day, and I do not have that problem despite being halfway around the globe from where the server is located, and none of our users have reported issues accessing the site. If you cannot access slrpnk, I do not believe the issue is on our end. Do you get any sort of error when you can't access it?
I am not trying to be defensive, but I am going to push back slightly on your framing of our instance if it contains misleading or incorrect information of our server that could unintentionally harm our reputation.
I also see a post from our zine, self-hosting, vegan, BIFL, Green energy, and Nolawns communities, as well as a fantastic post with imaginative original content in our Solarpunk Art community.
To maybe be more constructive something you might want to consider is fostering people sharing stuff communally. Lemmy will never beat reddit at being reddit and a lot of reddit is awful anyway.
Something vegantheoryclub used to do was a chat thread each week with a topic to discuss and to just share what's going on or talk in an unstructured way. You could consider something weekly to support community formation, something that makes someone go "oh! this is why you start using lemmy. This is what you can't get on reddit!"
We create a pinned community discussion thread each month, and invite our users to participate in the comments with any ideas, happenings in their lives, introductions, etc. We consider it, and call it, the instance's town square.
The moderator of our writing community also creates a monthly discussion inviting people to discuss the projects they've been working on.
I wouldn't be opposed to more of our moderators creating monthly or weekly threads in their communities, it's a good suggestion.
Just timeouts, slrpnk isn't alone many lemmy instances have issues with loads. While writing the following list I had to wait about 5 seconds for a page load and often refresh or wait a long time for images to load. Users won't do this.
Let's go through the list:
Many of these posts are hours or days old, niche, and all the news has probably already been seen by a potential new user.
This doesn't look like a place someone could jump in or post their own stuff, it looks like a place that people post news and nobody reacts to it.
I don't know how to do better but a lot of lemmy looks like this. Just reposts from other more popular social media sites and US news (often sad).
I like slrpnk, after the reddit flood it was one of the most chill places on lemmy with a lot of exposure to niche news/hobbies/resources. The problems aren't unique to slrpnk, but you've gotta understand why when seeing something like that and already worried about technical burden a user is just going to bounce off because it looks like a worse reddit.
You've hit the nail on the head. Lemmy seems to have 3 types of communities: rage factories, ghost towns, and comms where one desperate user keeps spamming stuff hoping in vein other interested people will join the conversation.
To a large extent I am that desperate spammy user on !worldbuilding@lemmy.world. Look at !foxes@lemmy.world. Despite having over 2K subs it's the same two users posting. !NiceMemes@sopuli.xyz: 3K subs, same user (incidentally one of the same two users from /c/foxes).
Even on reddit, it's known that 90% of users were lurkers, and only 10% ever commented or posted, it just didn't seem like that since there were am order of magnitude more users. But even then, some communities were propped up by just a handful of consistent posters.
The 10% figure is much more noticeable here since we only have 50k monthly users here on Lemmy/piefed.
I'm not experiencing that, personally. When I visit slrpnk it loads pretty much instantly, and I don't have to wait for images to load at all, they appear as I scroll. I haven't experienced any timeouts. You are currently the only person who has reported any sort of issue along those lines, and without more information it will be difficult to diagnose.
Is this occurring from visiting the page on a desktop browser? I have had issues with comments or images not displaying without a refresh when using the Summit app, but regular browsers and every other app I've tried has worked as expected.
There was a bug in older versions of Lemmy that would cause a browser to cache potentially gigabytes of data, causing the site to slow to a crawl. Does performance improve if you delete all data/cookies associated with slrpnk from your browser?
The default sort is Active, those old posts are still getting comments, otherwise they wouldn't show up as active. If sorting by New, only the very last post on the front page is over 24h old. However, much of the appeal of reddit was the comments, so I don't think switching to New being the default would be ideal, since newer posts tend to have less comments.
Can't say I agree with that assessment. Many people are not chronically online or already have good news sources for the topics posted about on slrpnk.
If you feel that the type of content posted on slrpnk isn't appealing, then there's not much I can say against that, as that is your subjective feeling. However, I think your own bias against the content posted there, such as news, may be leading you to conclude that it won't appeal to anyone else.
Even during its best days, Reddit was still ultimately a link aggregator with a forum attached below with most of it being news, and some smaller communities having more of a focus on original content, just as slrpnk does.