Sure, but what if we could fight billionaires in a ring?
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Nice! Let's do both!
I think he's right. We should all change to a 100% Billionaire diet...
I'm pretty sure excising the tumor that is the wealthy, the cause of most of our problems, comes first.
Yeah, so he is exactly right! Switching to a diet of very rich red meat
The !climate@slrpnk.net mods disliked that as they were never ever serious about tackling climate change 🤪
"Mods?" Looks like one guy. Shameful, @silence7@slrpnk.net
As related by famed biologist and renowned chemist Woody Harrelson PhD, millionaire esq.
NEVER Trust the rich when they tell you that your decisions are causing the problems.
The real problem is that the rich only give the poor so many options to choose from. Then they tell the poor to blame other poors for choosing wrong.
NEVER TRUST CELEBRITIES OR THEIR PROPAGANDA
Well, the beauty of research is that you can actually do it, instead of spouting whatever nonsense that was.
If Bill Gates tells you tomorrow to not kill puppies, you killing puppies overmorrow?
Back in the 90s I calculated that the US could save the Amazon rainforest by cutting our meat consumption by 10% and legalizing hemp (not marijuana). I no longer have the math available but the gist of it was that a 10% decrease in beef cattle feed would cause a corresponding drop in demand for feed corn, and if that much cornfield land were converted to hemp (which would work agriculturally) and the hemp were used to make paper, demand to import pulp logs from SA would decrease enough to demotivate logging the rainforest - where most logs at the time were being harvested for pulp. As a side benefit, the paper would last a lot longer but wouldn't be more expensive.
Took me a lot of time and effort to do the research for that. Dunno if it's still valid in today's economy.
Has Woody Harrelson even gone vegan? Last I saw, he was promoting the astroturfed pseudo-regenerative cattle ranching stuff.
Anyway I can already hear the impending, "no ethical consumption under capitalism" nihilists on their way. To those who denigrate any lifestyle modifications as ways to try to make the world better: if individual change didn't matter, there wouldn't be a market for plant-based foods at all, and nor would there be Linux. If all you ever focus on is the bad stuff you wish would go away, then yeah all seems lost. But that's not the big picture. Good is created, and good grows. But for that to keep happening, it needs to be chosen and promoted.
Maybe try going on a bike ride while you're at it.
-1 for not RTFA. Second sentence: "The actor and longtime vegan..."
Didn't read the article til now, damn you caught me!
Still skeptical.
Norm Macdonald voice
As compared to the number two way:

Not even close. Dealing with the excess personal ambitions of the wealthy would do far more.
Unless being vegan would keep you from actually eating the rich, this point is utterly and completely irrelevant.
To illustrate, imagine some celebrity said "rape culture is bad, and everyone should work against it!". Do I, as some average guy, get a pass if I talk about how "um akschually, Epstein Island, Trump, bla bla"?
Like, seriously, my INDIVIDUAL impact on womens liberation is exactly as big as your impact on animals rights. So do we both get to just not care, and sit on our lazy asses, because we can't, on our own, change the world?
You people talk a big game about material reality, about systems, but you've turned "systems" into a near religious excuse for personal inaction. "The revolution" is the second coming, and all you have to do is believe. Not act, not make the world a better place, just preach.
AFAIK a low-emission diet is actually number two - transportation is still the number one individual source of climate related emissions.
That's also the one that skews the most toward richer people - rich people take the most flights, cruises and yachts which are the worst ways to travel for the environment.
In my country they are both 22% but either way, reducing your car trips doesn’t give you the right to kill innocent animals.
What about the guilty ones?
"It's coming right at us!"
You can EASILY reduce your animal exploitation to zero no matter your economic situation. You still have to move your body and goods around no matter how you change your lifestyle.
In the US, its transport, because people drive cars and sit in traffic so much.
The rest of the world its 2nd or 3rd behind power generation and food.
No, the 'number one' way to help the planet is to not have children, undeniable fact. Diet is number two
Actually, deposing the wealthy is #1, no children #2, and diet #3.
I think the assumption is that he's talking about people changing their diets. Can't / probably shouldn't advocate for parents getting rid of their children.
That said, there are probably more direct actions one can take for our ecology that eclipse consumer choices.
I've not had 20 kids, so now I get to eat a bunch of animals, and fly a bunch of private jets, and roll coal all day long!
Also, your decision to eat meat in a western country DOES actually cause as much damage as some entire families existence in the poorer countries like Nigeria.
I feel like not having kids kinda defeats the purpose of saving the planet
Working from home is probably the next best thing.
Also, changes in diet does not necessarily mean changing what you eat. A huge amount on gains are to be had, just changing where where your food comes from. Local small producers are the gold standard. Combine that with growing some of your own vegtibles.
I’ve become a bit of a flexitarian now. Don’t cook chicken beef or pork at home now. If I cook anything it’s fish. Whenever we go out if there’s something meat on the menu that sounds great I’ll get it but eating vegetarian hasn’t been that hard at all. Hemp seed yogurt eggs tofu nutritional yeast. Pretty easy. Hope I see some health pay offs.
Guys, can we focus on Rampart, please?
deposing the tech bros is the no 1 way to help our planet