I gotta say, extrapolating from this thread, this is the worst "vegan" community I've seen since /r/vegan.
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deposing the tech bros is the no 1 way to help our planet
No, the 'number one' way to help the planet is to not have children, undeniable fact. Diet is number two
That's a lot of absolutism for someone not specifying a defining context.
No definition of "help", "the planet" or "diet" means it's wide open to contra-examples.
I feel like not having kids kinda defeats the purpose of saving the planet
That's your DNA's raging narcissism speaking. Not to impugn yours specifically, of course. The interests of an intelligent mind are not the same as the interests of the biological system that hosts it. Consider what's actually important to you as more than a pile of meat. Reproduction is so selfish when there are so many humans with unmet needs already reaching out for your help.
Actually, deposing the wealthy is #1, no children #2, and diet #3.
I've not had 20 kids, so now I get to eat a bunch of animals, and fly a bunch of private jets, and roll coal all day long!
Also, your decision to eat meat in a western country DOES actually cause as much damage as some entire families existence in the poorer countries like Nigeria.
I think the assumption is that he's talking about people changing their diets. Can't / probably shouldn't advocate for parents getting rid of their children.
That said, there are probably more direct actions one can take for our ecology that eclipse consumer choices.
I'm pretty sure excising the tumor that is the wealthy, the cause of most of our problems, comes first.
Anything to keep torturing animals
As Yanis Varoufakis mentioned, the technofeudalists(the wealthy who own Big Tech) are the new fascists
Cool, and you're actively doing that? You're working on a concrete plan that will actually create that outcome? And going vegan in the meantime will actually materially harm your efforts for that?
How often do we gotta pull out that tweet until you people learn? To paraphrase: "People online will be like 'Your approach of veganism pales in comparison to my plan of eating the rich!', and then never eat the rich or go vegan.
Yeah, so he is exactly right! Switching to a diet of very rich red meat
As related by famed biologist and renowned chemist Woody Harrelson PhD, millionaire esq.
NEVER Trust the rich when they tell you that your decisions are causing the problems.
The real problem is that the rich only give the poor so many options to choose from. Then they tell the poor to blame other poors for choosing wrong.
NEVER TRUST CELEBRITIES OR THEIR PROPAGANDA
Well, the beauty of research is that you can actually do it, instead of spouting whatever nonsense that was.
If Bill Gates tells you tomorrow to not kill puppies, you killing puppies overmorrow?