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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 123 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What they mean is "I couldn't write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT." And because they have very limited imaginations, they can't imagine other people being able to do something they can't.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Unironically, this. 👆

Too many people can’t see beyond their own little bubble, and have a difficult time if someone challenges their myopic world view. e.g. I see this all too often in software development where developers will make their software “opinionated” (read: it does what they want it to do, and not what’s necessarily good for their users).

I digress. 😅

[–] vrek@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago

I agree on software to a point. You need some opinions. "everyone will use a mouse and keyboard, fuck controller users" is bad. But you need some direction to get things done "what system will this run on? Everything! So I'm expected to make a rts game similar to statcraft 2 able to be played on the switch? Yes! And controllable with dpad, joystick, mouse, keyboard, touchpad and a paraplegic wheelchair? Yes! Ok, I'll need 20 years to write this, and I'll quit in 4"

Im exaggerating but there does need to limits. "this will be playable on Playstation 5" or "this will require a 2080 or better, we are not supporting a voodoo2 vfx card..."

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What they mean is “I couldn’t write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT.”

We used to have a tradition in this country. A tradition of looking up some other shit people wrote and dumping it into our own lazy, English 101 term papers with the hopes that the graders wouldn't notice.

Are we really so fucking lazy, as a society, that we can't even do plagarism properly anymore?

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unironically, if you aren’t capable of restructuring and consolidating other people’s ideas into your own format, how many modern office jobs are you even qualified for?

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's okay. Chatgpt is taking those jobs too.

I suggest we all get into plumbing. The potential for water damage makes robots less appealing there for the near future.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And because they have very limited imaginations, they can't imagine other people being able to do something they can't.

Right wing "thought" in a nutshell right here too

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I’m about halfway through my degree and haven’t used AI for any of it 🤷‍♂️ Including at least two 10 page papers and I don’t even know how many 3-5 page ones, lol. I have no intention of changing that either, why would I want to dilute my writing voice or my line of reasoning throughout the paper? Writing is thinking, there are so many things you think you understand well until you sit down and try to explain it. That’s the point, that’s the process of learning.

If it was up to me I would accept a student doing a presentation instead of a final paper if they really struggled with writing, because I’ve seen professors do that and I think it teaches just as much (also it’s fun to watch people give presentations they’re enthusiastic about). But it has to be equivalent to the amount of writing you’d be doing, like 20 minutes to present 3-4 pages. But either way, AI isn’t going to teach you anything for either of those compared to doing the work yourself.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago

Oh man, I asked Claude to summarize my commits and changes today, using the voice and structure of my usual daily updates.

It was fucking awful.

Claude spent 5 minutes on this then I had to review and edit anyway. I ended up spending 10 minutes writing down the what+why in a bullet list from scratch and it’s 100x clearer and better.

The AI neither did a better job nor saved me time.

I think you’re doing the right thing.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suspect in five years or so final exams will be a 1 on 1, face to face meeting with the teacher where they ask you some softball questions you should be able to answer easily if you did even some of the homework.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm in a field that decidedly does not value the written word beyond the minimum they need to understand and write emails, but I had to take a couple of writing classes in college.

I had to write several 10+ page papers, including research papers (like actual research, not "do your own research" research) before LLMs existed and I'm so fucking thankful for it. Nearly every single day I have to read the shit my colleagues write, and it's like they've never read a book in their entire lives. It's honestly tragic.

And this is a field full of ostensibly intelligent people.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not gonna feel any kind of sorry for an idiot that cannot imagine not needing a machine to do all of their thinking for them.

That's a literal real world NPC right there.

And shit, that's an insult to a fair number of NPCs, who have better writing, voice acting, and potentially GOAP driven tactics.

Fuck, sometimes even better facial animations.

[–] ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Watching so many functioning adults and people alike just lobotomize themselves immediately when AI became a thing is just so fucking tragic

[–] DokPsy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

The CEO of one of my companies clients literally said they couldn't do their job without Claude when we told him his PC was slowing down to the point of being unusable due to the desktop app and suggested he not use it

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 2 weeks ago

Higher cognitive skills are a nightmare from which they managed to awake.

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[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

They’re probably voting though…

[–] rodneylives@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As people here might notice over time, I write long comments on Lemmy without even noticing, all without AI. I feel like a mutant, though not so much in a good way.

[–] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

People used to call me the dictionary for having a ton of useless information, but now they call me chatgpt :(

I genuinely worked hard on learning an encyclopedia worth of knowledge and fun facts and I get compared to a hallucinating predictive text model. SMHOAT

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The longer comments I write get the fewest upvotes.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's crazy—It seems implausible to do that. As far as it goes for me—I can't imagine writing comments without AI—There's just so many words—No one has time for that.

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

not that it can't be done,just you specifically couldn't do it 😂 (j/k)

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Have they ever heard of books? Whole volume with up to several thousand pages written by people.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tbf, I'm old enough to have known the world before the world wide web, let alone ChatGPT, and I really don't understand how the hell anyone could write an internally consistent 1000+ page book/series.

Writers are witches.

Back before the internet became so addictive, I could write and write and write for long periods. Nowadays I have a really short attention span.

I do try to write hand-written letters every year, but work and chores and everything keeps getting in the way.

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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"There's no way you could write a 10 page paper without ChatGPT"

Pulls out a novel

Pulls out medical journal

Pulls out documentation for home insurance

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

chatgpt please summarize all 3 of these

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This novel is about a vampire who found love

This medical journal suggests Cancer is bad

This home insurance covers fire damage

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

i just read 3 whole books in a hour everyone, its so easy

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Really? This shit made front page twice?

You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right? You really got energy for this?

[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right?

As someone currently in college (soon not to be as I am dumb), I believe it. This indeed is how many do assignments, and also study, thus fully trusting the correctness of the information.

But it's coming from both sides.
Lecturer on programming class told us we can ask questions if we have some. Cool, I did.
So I asked, got "That's a good question, let's find out.", he typed out my question to Gemini, and read back the answer.
This was an introductory class to C, and my question was if you can find how much memory was allocated with malloc. His answer was Gemini's answer which was a concrete no.
Stackoverflow however provided me with better information on the matter: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1281720 (possibly yes)

Also, I've seen him ask and copy paste a number from Gemini. I think it was what a max value is for uint32_t.
Putting 2^32^-1 into a calculator? Nah, let's use an inefficient non-deterministic calculator instead.
Lastly, he added "AI is your most patient teacher".

He did the speaking part of lectures above average, but holy information sources...

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I watched a TA (teaching assistant) pull up their chatbot history when I challenged my DSA exam grades. I got about 17 points back. My grade went from high 60s to middle 80s.

Also anectode: I personally know of 2 people that sit in the back during 60+ people exams and simply use their phones.

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[–] Una@europe.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah your lying. People back than had AI programmed directly inside there head. Nowadays kids have to use external AI models.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

AI in this case meant "Actual Intelligence."

[–] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Back then, you'd find usable info on the web. Now everything is buried under centuries worth of AI slop read. Plus it was more accepted to have blind spots on your knowledge. Now everyone using AI raises some bars and the only sucker not using AI gets a worse grade.

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[–] kastledlg@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember ripping off a ten pager in college the night before because you worked all week and procrastinated? I do

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[–] homes@piefed.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Replace this with “without the Internet“, and I remember having this exact same conversation 25 years ago.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been seeing more and more tradies respond to customer enquiries with llm generated emails. AFAIC that instantly means you get shitlisted.

If you can't even write a fucking email you are not working on my house. This is supposed to be your field of expertise and you outsourced even talking about it to something using fucking reddit and facebook as sources

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[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

This kid's going to lose their mind when they find out about books.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Have these shitgurgling fuckwits ever heard of a goddamn book?

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Those big stacks of flat wood from the before fore?

Heat many boilers to keep turbines spinning with those. The machine gods demand it

[–] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] StopTech@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yup. This applies to every technology post-enlightenment technology. We didn't need cars, we didn't need the internet, we didn't need phones, we didn't need TV, we didn't need X-rays, we didn't need pharmaceuticals, we didn't need automated production and we certainly don't need anything to think for us.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 4 points 3 weeks ago
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