Whenever a malicious app breaks or scammers get to you, its always through the google play store. Their shit isnt even safe to make this fucken claim about safety.
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Right but its official, so its safe. That's what matters. Not whether it has malware or not.
But most importantly, some rich asshole will make some money this quarter and that’s all that matters
This is a nice list I'd consider for new phones.
- Murena (France) with /e/OS (France) on:
- Fairphone (Netherlands)
- Hiroh (USA)
- SHIFTphone (Germany)
- Teracube (USA)
- Punkt MC03 (Switzerland)
- Volla (Germany) with Volla OS or Ubuntu Touch (Germany)
- Jolla (Finland) with Sailfish OS (Finland)
- Purism Librem (USA, manufactured in the USA)
We should've shattered Apple in 2008.
So, do I finally need to learn about GrapheneOS? What are other people doing?
Graphene is by far the best. I highly recommend it.
Right now you need a Pixel to run it but soon you can get a Motorola that works with it.
Graphene is only of help (today) if you buy some shit from Google namely a Pixel. If you have another phone, step numero uno is always to learn what custom ROMs are available for your make and model.
Used Pixels are cheap and the money doesn't go to Google again.
And what are we supposed to do about it?
I made a goddamn prediction back in 2012 when Google was introducing the Nexus line of handsets. I FUCKING KNEW this "open platform" bullshit had it's days numbered.
These companies are fun when they're young, but they will ALWAYS turn on the consumer.
Adam Smith was right. Without ethics and morals, the system WILL crumble.
We have extremely moral billionaires preaching their theology in silicon valley, so it should all be fixed pretty soon.
This is why I'm happy about Motorola next year
With some luck I'll have time to put together my diy palmtop-esque machine, but we'll see if that works out.
For anyone who hasn't heard, Motorola is partnering with GrapheneOS to release compatible phones in 2027.
I really hope the Motorola thing actually pans out. Based on the general state of things I’m done with both Apple and Google.
What about Motorola? 😯
Yeah same, I have no idea what's happening with Motorola...
They are partnering with GrapheneOS
I don't trust Motorola to make a phone that doesn't have numerous hardware backdoors. Motorola does a ton of work for both the US and Israel. If it sounds too good to be true than it probably is. I think the US/Israel gave Motorola a bit of cash to make backdoored hardware that's made specifically for a privacy hardened software.
They are going to start loading GrapheneOS on phones from the start
Fantastic! Thanks for explaining 🙏
Same here. And its not like we are overwhelmed with alternatives, too.
Things have taken quite the turn from the nexus era to now, dropping nexus for pixel felt so blatant too.
What's going to happen to phones that already have 3rd party apps installed?
It'd be a stunningly idiotic move if they let you keep the ones already installed, but not let you update them - allowing security holes fixed by future versions to persist so you're wide open to exactly what they claim they're trying to prevent. More likely they'll use them as marketing for how "safe" Google is making you by repeatedly pointing out one at a time how they're blocking app "x" now that a security hole has been found on it.
So what is the next fork here? I've been handcuffed to android/Google (phones/ tablets) for decades. I have a couple of iPads but they don't have cellular and don't fit in your pocket.
Graphene OS
Finding out whether the pushed update effects jailbroken android set ups like Lineage would be a next step. But it will be a lot of work to see if you can jailbreak all your devices.
The only reason I have an android is that the laundry app I'm forced to use runs through it. It's literally only still surviving because capitalism contrived a way to tie it to my basic needs.
Laundry... app?
It's exactly as stupid as it sounds. Landlord decided we need to pay through an app. My budget overrules my principles, and the local laundry mats are at least five times the price, so... Yeah.
Is it just an app to add money to an account or do you need to tap something? Could you run the app through bluestacks?
You add money to the app, then the app checks your location (for "reasons") and connects to the machine via bluetooth then you press start. I'm not confident about running it through other things, but I don't want to say it'd be impossible -- certainly not worth the hassle though. Eventually, I'll move and it won't be a problem after that.
It would probably work with a laptop. But yeah eventually you'll move. I just hate being vendor locked by things.
Better than quarters.
I've been on both sides of it. I far prefer the quarters/physical cash over the app nonsense.
How the heck does that work? Do you need the phone to unlock the washing machine?
Yeah, there are no quarters. The app connects via bluetooth, but you also have to have location and data on. To be fair, quarters were a persistent pain with the banks not wanting to trade money if I didn't have an account, so ups and downs.
Andromeda (on FuriOS) works amazingly; most apps run on it, including all þree of my bank's apps. I hear þe Ubuntu touch Android emulator works just as well.
Will it effect free custom ROMs like lineage?
Not directly, but they've been making other moves to make life difficult for such users — such as significantly delaying releasing the open source parts they're supposed to, potentially leaving users on insecure versions for far longer.
Also things like trusted computing preventing things like banking apps from running on rooted OS
How will prospective devs test apps they've been working on?