reupload because i mixed up sigterm and sigkill like a dumb fuck
A stop job is running for User Manager for UID 1000 (12s / 2 mins)
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In those cases there's an easy solution.
Step 1: sigh
Step 2: press the power button 5 or 10 seconds while contemplating why you decided to do a quick restart instead of keeping the session and do something actually productive
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That's because it first send sigterm, then sigkill. Then it gives up and let the kernel handle it...
Happens on my BTRFS disk's unmount. If the kernel is currently busy handling some heavy btrfs command (like a 4tb scrub), systemd cannot stop it with sigkill.
So when it eventually gives up, you also need to wait for the kernel to finally stop the operation and actually disconnect the disk.
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also yes i know shutdown typically uses sigterm and waits nicely, but it doesn't take 45 seconds for no damn reason like windows
also sigkill is funnier
Windows: the shutdown mechanism cannot execute correctly because this process is still running:
ShutDownProcess
hoss
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Definitely not a systemd based distro in the meme
Maybe something I don't know, but I send kill commands through btop all the time on a systemd based machine.
The point here is that SystemD's natural behavior is to send SIGTERM then wait an eternity.
Those "service XY is shutting down (5sec/2min)" messages you sometimes get on shutdown are coming from SystemD not waiting for 3 seconds like the meme suggests, but waiting for minutes before giving up and switching over to SIGKILL instead.
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Reverse meme when it's time to install the updates.
Windows in that case is "I MUST REBOOT IMMEDIATELY PREPARE TO LOSE ALL UNSAVED DATA IN 3. 2. 1..."
When I switched to win 10, I actually gave them more money to get the pro version for access to the group policy editor so I could control updates and never have to deal with my PC telling me it's time to restart on its own. Because I was stupid.
When it came time to switch to Win 11, I did the much more sensible thing and installed Fedora instead. I started with cinnamon and even though I ended up disliking it also, it was still way better than the windows experience.
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"YOU CAN'T SHUT DOWN YET, STEAM STILL RUNNING" -Win10, literally every time.
The fuck?
I've had it yell at me because it couldn't close some dialog window that explorer opened because I was trying to shut it down
The number of times I've told my work laptop to shut down on Friday, and found it still running on Monday is too damn high. And it's usually because I had two instances of VSCode running, and when they got closed they both tried to run an update, and the setup processes interfered with each other. The resulting dialog window prevents shutdown.
Every workday using Windows is just further validation for running Linux on my own hardware.
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Ironic. Because a bug on CachyOS KDE made the shut down button in the quick menu disappear. Nobody in their community could help me or explain why. Generally I would say support is rather spotty with CachyOS in general. Of course you can shut it down in many other ways but that was my preferred one. So I just lived with it and instead used ctrl+alt+delete for a while until the button magically returned one day.
I'm kind of a linux noob, and i currently run catchyos and there are some things i don't really understand. Last time i used linux is like 10 years ago, and i read and experienced that a really big plus on linux compared to windows is that you don't need to restart when yoj install or update, but on catchy, you need to restart almost every update, which is almost every day it seems. Another thing that puzzles me is that every now and then, i restart for the update and wander off, and when i come back i don't use the pc anymore and want to shut it down, but in the log in screen there is no shut down button, just a restart button.
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Don't be a pussy and sigkill process number 1.
Had the pleasure of installing some HPE proprietary crap on RHEL the other day.
After the cli installer ran it printed: rebooting now.
It then killed PID 1 to force the reboot ...
We were flabbergasted. Why would the first and only method of asking the system to reboot be to shoot the system in the head?
I was installing something decades ago that set the default runlevel to 6 and inserted itself as a runlevel 6 service. It would reboot until it had finished the changes it wanted to make and then set the runlevel back. Weirdest trash software. The service stayed to "apply updates on reboot"
I'm glad I don't have to work there anymore.
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I had to update a Windows 11 work laptop after not touching it for nearly a year. I click 'shut down' from the start menu and nothing happens. What? Try it again. Nothing again.
I have to hold down the power button before the screen shows a "slide to shut down" screen now. How did Microslop fuck up the 'shut down' so badly.
I love how the design is so bad now we're missing the days when shutting down the computer required the "Start" button.
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The first time I shutdown a Linux computer, I thought I broke something it happened so fast.
Been doing Linux for decades. sudo reboot is still very jarring.
Same. I still feel like I should be parking the heads on my 10mb hard drive. Honestly at this point, I'm too embarased to ask if there is a proper way to send my servers for a reboot, and I cross my fingers I can log back in.
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It's tragic the level of immediate relief I feel every time I shutdown on Linux after years on Windows.
also true for boot (not from suspended state), in my experience.
windows: wait, let me display the windows logo for 10 seconds, then show a spinny circle, then show the lock screen, then when you try to enter your password, it loads your user profile for another 5 minutes before it shows your desktop icons
linux: click the power button -> 1.5 seconds later i see the lock screen. enter password and it's just there.
I've found it to be very dependent on the distro and the hardware it's running on. Back when I was playing around with distros I definitely tried some that felt like you snapped your fingers and had a desktop. But I settled on Fedora and that takes longer to boot for me than Windows. Not that I mind, 30 seconds once a week or so just isn't important to me.
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Xkill is my favorite. I prefer aiming the gun and pulling the trigger myself
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Reboot
Windows: save all your woooork. What apps you had open? How would I know?
Linux: it's all saved in ram, don't worry. It'll be like you never rebooted
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This but deleting a folder:
- Are you sure you want to delete this
- Delete too large to fit in garbage bin, so are you really sure
- Couldn't delete stuff (for no clear reason)
- Even as admin file locks were hard blocking without any easy way to unblock
Meanwhile on Linux with sudo rm -rf, it's just gone as demanded.
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Three whole seconds? Ain't nobody got time for that shit
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="1"
Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
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Nah man. "kill" doesn't shut the system down quickly. This is the "instant death" way - the kernel reset gun - no shutdown scripts, no disk sync, just reset to BIOS boot sequence, instantly:
As root:
echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
If you change out the "b" in the second command for "o" it will just halt the kernel instead of rebooting. Still switched on, but the system is doing absolutely nothing.
I used to use this trick all the time to test high availability server clusters.
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I prefer Windows giving programs time to shut down properly. You can always click on 'shutdown anyways' or whatever the button is called. Also what kind of programs do you run that take 45 seconds to shut down?
That's actually the default on Linux as well. This meme just gets shared every other week, perpetuating the myth. OP seems to be aware of that.
It doesn't "give time" it just waits indefinitely, and if the program doesn't terminate your laptop will just sit there until the battery dies. This has to be one of the dumbest aspect of Windows, and god knows there are many
I had a systemd bug delay shutdown for 2 mins every time for a very long time on Debian. Never managed to fix it, Fedora did not have the same issue fortunately.
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