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Why would anyone use Copilot when you have so many other options. Cursor just released Composer 2.5 and it's actually decent. I should have a job right now doing this.
Because subsidized plans can't be used at enterprise. Enterprise pays expensive rates
From the enterprise admin of Copilot, Cursor & Claude....enterprise controls. ~~Microsoft~~ GitHub understands what companies need to run their products securely and successfully (at scale™).
/edit to add. Our Copilot bill went down due to change in billing type, mostly due to organization pooling of credits.
That just sounds like bad management, and a huge opportunity to cut costs by switching to Linux and something like cursor or other alternatives.
I don't think you understood my sentence, we (the company) already offer plenty of choices. In fact we offer OpenAI (Codex, ChatGPT) as well as Gemini. I just admin Cursor, Copilot and Claude (and at one time we offered Windsurf, but that didn't have enough users to rectify the costs/time spent administrating it). What I am trying to tell you is that the fairly new companies, OpenAI, Cursor, Anthropic/Claude absolutely suck at making their product usable by the enterprise while Gemini and Copilot completely understand enterprise needs/requirements.
We already have Linux laptops (with enterprise controls). /edit Apple machines are primarily used though. We even offer Windoze if you really need it! (Some folks do.)
between anthropic going ipo for cash and this, I think we're seeing the edge of the bubble
Another thing that greatly improves productivity is not relying solely on AI to do your job for you.
Good devs don’t rely on it to do their job, but use it to do their job better and more productively.
As a dev, copilot is amazing.
My friend who uses Claude daily says it saves him a hell of a lot of time doing all the routine work, which he verifies. It's not AI's fault if devs are sloppy, or if non-devs think they can type "Create software" and go get coffee. I still remember some people around 1990 who similarly misunderstood object-oriented programming - like it meant drawing a box labeled "DoAccounting" and magic would happen.
The slop is now prohibitively expensive. Good.
Every single person who mentions using AI for anything- any reason at all- all I can do is imagine what face they would make if I spat in it.
Said like someone who doesn’t understand that AI is a tool that can greatly improve your work life and productivity.
If I was you I’d do some research into it, especially around GitHub copilot, and get learning - or you’re going to be left behind. If you’re a dev then you are signing your careers death warrant by having that attitude.
If it is a sooo big productivity improvement just pay for it. Or maybe you mean it was a worthwhile productivity improvement when it was almost free?
I wouldn't even like what I do if I had to use this shit.
Stanley Parable button pusher life for real.
Actually it can be a very useful tool, if you know what you're doing. Expensive in real terms, so only for tasks which are worth it. So perhaps not for making annoying cat videos.
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Push Chinese models. Deepseek, kimi, qwen etc.
No datacenters locally and local oligarchs won't have that much power over us. They won't be lobbying that much against humans if local oligarchs can't make money
Yeah, empower chinese models, instead! That's the solution!
I'm sorry, did everybody else not see this coming from miles away? This is the private equity playbook.
- Make a service so cheap as to seem to good to be true to attract customers.
- Gain a loyal base of people
- once theyre locked in, squeeze them for all they're worth.
When something is too good to be true, you ALWAYS have to be ready to either jump ship, massively change how you do things, or pay through the nose.
Yeah - people are talking about replacing jobs with AI. As if it is not totally obvious that people like Sam Altman will totally bleed you dry after you fired all your workers. You will not save on your wage bill, you will simply give the money to Sam Altman
Wages are treated as an immediate operational cost, while AI is framed as a capital investment. This accounting distinction makes AI look like a long-term asset, whereas labor remains perpetually categorized as an expense.
Only if you are running your own servers. You dont get to depreciate a SaaS subscription or metered bill.
The angry devs from this article are idiots
I've been preaching this for the past couple of years. Everything up until now has been entirely about gaining market share, and AI will never be cheaper than it is right now, and it's not cheap.
Just look at the "earnings" for companies like openAI. They are 1000+% in the red. It's impossible for them to change their sales model enough to make that profitable. As more data centers go up, the operating costs are also going to go up.
I've been telling people that now is the best time in the past decade or more to learn how to code. There will be positions available in the coming years when the only junior devs available are vibe coders.
Pretty sure they picked the wrong tech to try and lock people into. It isn't hardware and doesn't have some kind of proprietary interface that takes time to get used to when switching. Some models might be better than others at specific things, but not enough to justify the prices they are going to charge for output you have to review and fix.
This is literally the easiest thing to jump ship from.
The unique thing about GitHub Copilot (and all the other vibe-coding tools) is that they're speed-running the playbook because this shit is not profitable. It can't be. Their costs scale up with usage, unlike every other business that can take advantage of economies of scale, so they've skipped the slow, steady enshittification phase and jumped directly into the "squeeze blood from this stone to keep the scam going a little longer" phase.
Is the answer don't use copilot, or am I just talkin' crazy?
Local AI it is then. Not that I'm using all that much now anyway...
Where I work, Chinese models are banned due to legal concerns. Not just in production, on any company-owned machine. That basically eliminates all the decent open weight models. I’m imagining this type of policy will be more widespread. I suppose it’s because of the potential for legal woes if systems and people are dependent on these models and then federal or state laws impose harsh penalties with little time to react.
I meant for private use.
As for work, we do use AI quite a lot and I don't have a say over what's available.
To use one equivalent to Claude Opus, you need like 800GB GPU memory. The chips that will get you there run $20-30k a pop, and you’d need 4 or more of them.
That's the biggest baddest model out there. There are models that get you 90% of the way there with a significantly smaller parameter count and thanks to MoE offloading you don't need the entire model active at once.
A 5090 and a beefy CPU and tons of RAM won't be cheap or even affordable to most, but you could run very big models and have a beefy PC for other activities. But even a 16 GB card could do plenty.
Yeah, I'm aware. I have realistic expectations and I'm looking into running something simpler and less demanding.
can't do good business with bad people.
Oops. Now that users are being to made to pay something closer to the true cost of AI inference, no one will like using it anymore. Could this be what ultimately sets off the bubble *collapse?

You mean you guys don't rotate between 10 free accounts and use their monthly quotas?
Joke's on them, I never used it. Fuck AI.