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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago

Occasionally it strikes me as a little odd when Said asks about some detail that I think he should have been able to fill in by himself, but it's no trouble: if I can spare the time (and it's worth it), I'm usually happy to type up the requested additional explanation.

is there anything you do except type?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 14 hours ago

The normal way for people like Achmiz and Davis to reconcile their differences with a mod team is to set up their own forum, with hookers and beer, and entice the audience thither. But they both know it would be a sad empty shell of a place inhabited by those 2 windbags.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

So which of you is running Said Achmiz's account?

Reversing a diaspora only works if the diverse elements of the diaspora are allowed to participate in the repatriation. For example, the State of Israel's legitimacy as a homeland for the Jewish people depends on its including all Jews as the concept has been historically and publicly understood. If a faction of Ashkenazi Jews seized power and arbitrarily decided that Sephardic Jews can't be Israeli, that would seriously undermine the foundations of why many people supported the Zionist project in the first place.

Lol wow that is quite an argument to use. Made even worse by stuff like this

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 22 hours ago

If LW banned all its energy vampires then it would have no users

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

After concluding the same thing, I scrolled through the whole thing out of a sick sense of curiosity just to see how long it ended up being. IIt must have taken me 30 seconds just to use my touchpad to scroll to the bottom (including the pages of footnotes). These people are beyond parody.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Holy fuck I was reading it for a while thinking "this is a really long post that I'm wasting my time and sanity reading and it's really getting unnecessary how long it is" only to look and see I was like 1/10th of the way through.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

And now there are 59 comments, too.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

That doesn't shock me. LWers are exactly the type to spend the entirety of their free time for a day interacting with a single blog post

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 9 hours ago

check out this beaut it has subsections and a folded "spoiler" section https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HaH9mTdKt8pcNAtYn/comment-on-banning-said-achmiz?commentId=kEsLavWGNtkrqaAY2

don't recognize commenter but they seem to be a big cheese in the rat sphere

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You show up, you put a ton of effort into a post, and at the end the comment section will tear apart some random thing that isn't load bearing for your argument, isn't something you consider particularly important, and whose discussion doesn't illuminate what you are trying to communicate, all the while implying that they are superior in their dismissal of your irrational and dumb ideas.

That's... the point of the place? It's only superficially an intelligent place for discussion. A breeding ground for Neofascist, Technofeudalist excuses.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Exactly, they write super long winded posts because they are faintly mimicking the style of academic research, but they don't evidence or sources to actually cite, so you end up with posts full of meandering analogies and jargon and then those bits are easy for someone to rip apart.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 12 hours ago

You show up, you put a ton of effort into a post, and at the end the comment section will tear apart some random thing that isn’t load bearing for your argument, isn’t something you consider particularly important, and whose discussion doesn’t illuminate what you are trying to communicate

Man if only LW posters knew how to use the delete key to shorten their posts to only the load bearing parts, which they consider particularly important and who's discussion illuminates what they were trying communicate. Alas.

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago

It continues to amaze me how much digital ink they can spill about this issue.