These are the traditional american values I support.
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Reminds me of that video of magats rocking out on RATM Killing in the name of, having absolutely no idea what the song is about
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
ah, the cryptic lyrics were too opaque for the conservative brain
Conservative Politian: When did RATM get political?
Tom Morello: Tell me what song in our catalog you don't think is political and I'll remove it.
We'll fight the powers that be, just don't pick our destiny
A big part of MAGA mythology is the notion that the country, even with Republicans in charge of all three branches, is actually run by a sinister cabal of deviants and assorted non-WASPs. "Fighting the powers that be" is what Trump is here to do for them.
'cause you don't know us, you don't belong
...not hard to find a MAGA reading for that line either.
They thought the guy dressed in drag while singing "were not going to take it" was on their side? WOW
There could be a song called "kill all the fascists" and republicans would still think it was a song for them.
MAGA seem to be made up a lot of individuals with no patience to sit down and listen to song lyrics.
Is the bulk of them struggling with ADHD? cuz it kinda sounds like a trait of ADHD
I'd say Dee is a national treasure, but i'm afraid it would tick him off. <3 Dee
Media literacy final boss are MAGAs. Same goes for some Christians praising Take Me to Church as a song of worship. You see this also a lot with video games and superheroes. No, Batman would NOT be on your side and games like Fallout have ALWAYS been political.
No, Batman would NOT be on your side
Neither would Punisher, despite the bullshit thinblueline skulls and that stupid orange-diddler combover variants.
I'll worship like a dog at the shrine of your lies
Emphasis mine.
For some songs (like "We're not gonna take it"), only knowing the chorus explains why many people might miss the point. "Take Me to Church" doesn't even offer that saving grace.
Batman is a billionaire beating up environmentalists. Sounds pretty MAGA to me.
Yeah although usually it's Superman they're obsessed with anyway. Usually they like to complain that the current iteration is too woke, even though it's exact same character from the 1960s
There's a comic arc where Batman tries feverishly to get rid of his fortune not through philanthropy but really by selling and giving away everything. The system is so rigged that he is still stupidly filthy rich by the end of it all and the systemic inequalities and corruption make it so that all his money is being squandered and used to further abuse victims instead of helping. So he ends up beating up people in a black suit anyway, as the only real way to fight corruption.
Also, there's a literal supernatural curse over the city anyways. It will always be evil and corrupt.
Where did the supernatural curse come from?
It depends on the universe and story arc. In one Batman is literally fighting a god that lives as a bat at the core of the city. One has an evil warlock from 40000 years ago sleeping under the city. My favorite one is that there's a literal portal to hell in Arkham's basement.
Rich people, probably.
Riding the train in the wrong direction just makes this person sound like they're one of those people that can't sit in a seat facing backwards on a train without feeling queezy.
I think there's something beautiful about people getting from music what they look for in it, even if the lyrics litterally counter it.
This is almost as bad as thinking RATM was on their side. I say almost, but holy shit, how do you listen to one of their songs without comprehending or even thinking about a single line of the lyrics. Actual dementia
"Bulls On Parade? Bulls are basically donkeys with horns, so clearly its talking about democrats."
"Know Your Enemy? Well I know my enemy, liberals!"
"Some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses? Hell yeah!"
"I like burning crosses!!!"
Clearly that's talking about the radical left. Who else would possibly burn a cross as a symbol of their movement than the godless radical left? It's obviously a Christian song.
Jarrod Sessler must've been high if he thought that song favored conservative values..
That or he's an idiot that couldn't understand the lyrics...or understand the video...
He listened to the song intro and that's it. Guaranteed.
It's not that they don't listen. It's that their brains aren't built to think critically about anything. They are built to obey, but they're also narcissists.
That's why conservatives go wild for Trump. From the conservative's point of view, Trump lets them FEEL LIKE THEY ARE OBEYING by doing whatever they want.
He doesn't just give them permission or cover to be awful; Trump makes these people feel like they're helping him when they do shitty and selfish things.
(This is also why they love cops who hurt people and soldiers who commit war crimes. They get to vicariously OBEY while also BREAKING THE RULES TO FEEL GOOD. Best of both worlds to them, like taking an upper and a downer at the same time.)
I guess that makes conservatism a social speedball.
I think you have it backward. These people are all "independent free thinkers" who think the same thing Fox told them to think.
They don't want to obey; they're Confederates! They're rebels and cowboys and other term for rugged, free individualists. These people, who have been robbed of even the ability to think, let alone do, by themselves after decades of propagandizing and near-nonexistent education. They feel like they're flipping off the establishment. That's why MAGAs kept talking about "drain the swamp", because they thought "far right" was just a new angle to attack more decorous politicians. They aren't helping Trump out of some unctuous, perverse desire to be stepped on. They're helping Trump because they're too dumb to release that their party IS the establishment.
In 2022, Snider tweeted about the use of the song by right-wing activists, "ATTENTION QANON, MAGAT FASCISTS: Every time you sing 'We're Not Gonna Take It' remember it was written by a cross-dressing, libtard, tree hugging half-Jew who HATES everything you stand for. It was you and people like you that inspired every angry word of that song! SO FUCK OFF!
All the cool people of history are woke.
In November 2023, after the October 7 attacks, Snider was asked if he agreed with Israel soldiers using "We're Not Gonna Take It" as a battle cry. He replied, "Oh, hell yeah. You know what? Israelis, the assault on the Israelis, people are losing sight of something. People saying that, 'Oh, the response is gonna be too intense for what happened.' Well, you don't get to decide on the response when you do heinous things to civilians. You don't get to say, 'Oh, that's enough, that's enough retaliation.' No, it doesn't work like that. When you cross that line, you're burning people, you're slaughtering people, you're raping people, you're just killing people, after what happened at that festival you don't get to say, 'Okay, your revenge can be this much.' No. Payback's a mothereffer. And I come from that school. You cross that line, you know... shit's gonna happen. Sing it out, boys."
Everyone's problematic
Valid criticism, but how does he feel today? Because on October 7, I was pretty supportive of strong retaliation, too.
Then I saw what Israel actually did, which was far beyond a military response on military targets. It wasn't long after they started that they lost my support. I can support the concept of justice, I can't support genocide.
I don't know how he feels about that today, but it is possible that his feelings in November, immediately following the attack, changed after the atrocious response. I think a lot of peoples' did.
Yeah I agree for the most part. I can't find anything about him retracting this comment in the aftermath though. Maybe he did.
But his implied question is deep, what amount of retaliation is the correct or maximum amount? Not just in this case, but any case.
That's the eternal question. Too much retaliation isn't just immoral, it's tactically foolish. You horrify your allies and incite revenge. Too little on the other hand and you don't deter.
While I think we should have gone harder in punishment to the active members of the axis governments, I think the post WW2 rebuilding is probably best. Leaders and propagandists are targeted and punished and there's a period of hardship, but you help them rebuild while pressing them towards a less destructive attitude towards you.
The only way to kill your way to peace is to kill everyone. Real peace requires creating an environment where enough of both sides want peace and violence isn't worth it.
It's pretty obvious innit? Targeted counter terror operations. Use the considerable power and expertise available to the government to bring those responsible to justice without demolishing the whole country. Like America should've done (and eventually did) with bin Laden, instead of invading the countries next door for over a decade.
I mean that's what I would do, but to answer more broadly, I think the maximum amount should definitely be constrained to what is legal.
Playing devils advocate for Snider, November 2023 was right after October 7th and I don't think there were nearly as many people pointing out and shouting about the ethnic cleansing Israel was using the attack as an excuse to partake in until we got into 2024.
Indeed.
I know "Well, you don’t get to decide on the response" certainly aged like milk, but I think folks in 2023 could be forgiven to be thinking "IDF is going to strike Hamas and Hamas brought them on themselves" as the wanton collateral harm largely wasn't on folks radar at the time. Some folks with more nuanced understandings sounded alarms and were dismissed, but having to respond to that situation mere weeks after October 7th... That's going to be a tough scenario for most people to come out looking ok.
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Conservatives famously have the media literacy of a tree stump.
What the hell did they think he wasn't gonna take anymore? Minorities? Wokeness?
Unironically, yeah. Probably.
They think "woke" is the machine they're raging against.
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Ah yes, conservatives. The same guys that have no idea what machine is being raged against.
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