I thought the Dutch were the reasonable ones
Did I see one of those cops yanking on the woman's hair? Jesus, buddy
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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I thought the Dutch were the reasonable ones
Did I see one of those cops yanking on the woman's hair? Jesus, buddy
Are the Dutch hiring ICE agents or a football hooligans?
Yes
Fucking pieces of shit. Lowest of the low. I hope he lives a miserable life and dies alone.
WTF!?!
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ACAB applies globally
I've seen so many police brutality videos. They never get easier. Fuck.
Agree, there are absolutely horrible police systems, same as there are horrible people everywhere. The other side is also true, There are honorable police officers doing honorable work in many systems, protecting society like it's their own family. Let's not forget about that. I feel that the horrible systems get more media coverage, therefore pooling the good cops with the bad ones. Nobody covers all the times a cop takes down a dangerous person that poses an immediate threat to someone else. There are no cameras around when a cop takes down a guy who just beat up his wife.
no, horrible cops and horrible people are not equivalent. the profession is tainted, all cops are bastards.
Literally fuck all cops everywhere.
The guys with the police dogs are always so twitchy and violent. It's like they absorb their own dog's attack training.
Is there anyplace in the world that doesnt have lowest common denominators just itching to brutalize and murder in positions of law enforcement?
Nope.
Perhaps, Japan...
If you want to know what kind of people will be in a job, on average, consider what the job incentivizes and how that might appeal to the motives of different kinds of people.
Law enforcement ostensibly promotes an image of community service and protection. So you will find people that wish to do those things seeking to become police officers.
But the reality is that police work itself, policies, and legal protections for officers is far more focused on the state sanctioned use of force, the strict adherence to laws for citizenry but far more lax enforcement on officers themselves, and the authority of command given to officers in interactions with them. So for someone who wants to posture as a tough guy, to dominate over people with legal authority, to commit acts of violence with little, if any, consequence for themselves or recourse for he victim, and to remain in good standing in much of society because of the aforementioned promoted image, it serves those desires too.
And due to the us vs them mentality, the lack of liability, and the tight community formed just within law enforcement and those who work directly with them (prosecutors/DAs, judges, mayors, etc) that do not hold each other accountable unless they do something to violate that community (like reporting abuse of authority, excessive force, gross negligence, etc. on fellow officers), then the police culture itself incentives pushing out the cops with good intentions that may stir up "trouble" in the community in favor of those who will allow or actively propagate corruption and collusion.
If a job incentivizes and/or protects aggression, violence, and pretty crime, don't be shocked when it's full of aggressive, violent, petty criminals.
"Male bullies become cops, female bullies become nurses" is something I hear often and it makes sense. Power over vulnerable people attracts these specimen. Are ALL in these professions like that? Of course not but probably a higher average than in other fields.
That's how they got the job.
Nowhere that has hierarchy, and therefore power and wealth held in the hands of a few to pay others to commit violence on their behalf.
But who are the police and the soldiers who protect the capitalists against you, against the people?
If they were capitalists themselves, then it would stand to reason why they want to protect the wealth they have stolen, and why they try to keep up, even by force, the system that gives them the privilege of robbing the people.
But the police and the soldiers, the defenders of ‘law and order’, are not of the capitalist class. They are men from the ranks of the people, poor men who for pay protect the very system that keeps them poor. It is unbelievable, is it not? Yet it is true. It just comes down to this: some of the slaves protect their masters in keeping them and the rest of the people in slavery. In the same way Great Britain, for instance, keeps the Hindoos in India in subjection by a police force of the natives, of the Hindoos themselves. Or as Belgium does with the black men in the Congo. Or as any government does with a subjugated people.
It is the same system.
Here is what it amounts to: Capitalism robs and exploits the whole of the people; the laws legalize and uphold this capitalist robbery; the government uses one part of the people to aid and protect the capitalists in robbing the whole of the people. The entire thing is kept up by educating the people to believe that capitalism is right, that the law is just, and that the government must be obeyed. Do you see through this game now?
from Now and After by Alexander Berkman, Chapter 3: Law and Government. Available to read for free here.
Looks like a bad apple issue, one doesn’t deal with the tension well at all and then the rest has to deal with that fallout. I mean, just look at their reactions to their colleagues’ action; gawking in disbelief and late in response to the man’s retaliation.
I get the US police problem, but that shit doesn’t do well for Dutch police officers.
The complete phrase is "one bad apple spoils the bunch." Just because the US police are particularly awful doesn't mean other countries' police don't also have systemic issues or that they aren't problematic institutions in general.
Doesn't it seem strange there are 5 cops at a hospital and one of those cops is a canine unit.
Maybe there is more to the story
they where responding to an call where somebody was wielding a knife
Reaction from the police spokesperson linked by a commenter indicates they see no problem with this.
Me when I'm a class traitor too
Canadians want to join the EU, don't forget
Still better then the us, or for that matter our own police.
The EU is not far from the US in many aspects. The actions are just more subtile and the propaganda is better.
Nah yall are just ten years behind like always.
Yep, EU jingoism is on the rise. There's unfortunately quite a lot of it here on Lemmy. It reminds me of the tankies - America bad so EU must be good.
Attempted murder of the fetus by the cop and justified defense of other by the husband.
What the actual fuck? The dude with the dog needs to be brought up in charges, and the rest need to be suspended. That was completely uncalled for.
Just thought he'd cause a fucken miscarriage because a pregnant woman shoo'd away another pig's grip.
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I was going to say, you can say that again, so I will!
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This is insane what the fuck. Thank god I left that shithole.
Where'd you go? I'm looking to leave, I recently researched a place in Italy where 350k could buy me a 520m2 villa while here in the Netherlands I can't even afford the smallest apartments that are now crossing the 400k mark.
Italy? The country with an openly fascist prime minister?...
There is no escape to capitalism. You can maybe escape west fascism by moving to some part of Asia (no Japan or bad Korea). Please don’t inflate Italian housing market, it’s already catastrophic for our purchasing power.
for the hogs: I live in via della Camiluccia in Rome. Come and get me fuckfaces.