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    [–] esc@piefed.social 132 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (15 children)

    Is it really most popular?

    It's not more stable than plasma surely, at least when user does any customization.

    Simplicity is questionable, unless simple means 'unlearn everything and do it our way'.

    [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 94 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    For a long time it was. KDE kind of exploded themselves back around version 4. GNOME made huge inroads while the KDE Dev team's got their shit sorted. Main DE to the flagship general user distribution etc. It's just a fact. And not gonna lie I still have fond memories of GNOME 2.

    But the KDE team really put their time in and cooked. It isn't perfect. But the over all polish shows. Not to mention its been snowballing lately. I have my whole family on plasma 6 right now. It's familiar as it needs to be, stable and mostly intuitive. It's just so good. In fact my only gripe right now is a niche Wayland issue and not DE related.

    [–] boraginoru@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 weeks ago

    I just randomly tried KDE recently and made the swap from Linux Mint to Kubuntu a week ago. Definitely agree on the polish factor, everything just feels great with KDE and I've been pretty happy

    [–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    The recent evolution is great and I've been a happy KDE user for many years, but my oh my is NetworkManager bad. It's not good on all systems that use it under the hood, but I find it especially unintuitive and so outdated. The applet thing is fine (still suffers from weird behaviour from NM's core), but actual settings screen drives me crazy... The Bluetooth one should also receive some love, but it's decent. NM needs serious revision.

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    [–] esc@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Meh, plasma was stable enough by 4.4 (when I've switched from gnome 2), there were some problems, but gnome 3 released about that time wasn't any better. I'm not sure about popularity of gnome, it was repeated a lot but personally I've met one person to this day that used vanilla gnome 3/4/5/50 not representative of course but it's just weird that supposedly everyone is running it yet among the category of people that linux is most popular with it doesn't show.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Gnome lost a lot of popularity with Gnome shell, and for good reason. Gnome made the same mistake Microsoft did with Windows 8, which was also universally hated. By the same mistake I mean they changed EVERYTHING!

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    And unlike Windows, they didn't backtrack on it. Instead, they doubled down and said, "You'll use your computer our way, and you'll like it!"

    IMO, the whole interface is a mess. It's designed as if it's supposed to be a tablet/moblie first DE, but the actual tablet/mobile features (like on-screen keyboard) are kind of crap. Everything about it seems to be designed with aesthetics first, functionality last.

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    [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    yea, gnome is "more popular". doesn't mean it's "better", just that it's the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

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    [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

    Gnome is more stable in my experience. The base Gnome without any extensions is rock solid and just works without a hitch. Problem is that it's bland as hell and not very practical. Most of the popular extensions to make the DE are also pretty solid and reliable, as gnome's extension API doesn't really allow them to break anything in any spectacular way. Plasma allows better and more powerful extensions, but they also tend to have a bigger effect on the DE's stability.

    That said, I fucking hate how Gnome devs handle the extension API. Every update to Gnome disables all the extensions even if there's no breaking changes that would cause them to stop working. You gotta either manually edit their manifest files to trick Gnome into thinking they've been updated to the latest DE version, or you gotta wait for the devs to update. Every now and then they do release a breaking change that does break things too, and things get annoying. I used to maintain a relatively popular-ish, very simple Gnome extension. But eventually I got sick and abandoned because nobody's got time to deal with Gnome's extension API. I had to rewrite some basic shit for no good reason one too many times.

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    [–] BJ_and_the_bear@lemmy.world 102 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Don't forget the OG KDE mascot Kandalf

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    [–] liinux@pawb.social 94 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    We all know that the real MVP is Xenia

    [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Did the Gnome people ever figure out how to put icons on the desktop yet?

    [–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Icons on the desktop is a non-feature for most gnome users. Even my Windows desktop has been empty since XP released. If you really want desktop icons then using an extension for that should be fine, but it's silly to frame this as a failing of the "Gnome people" just because Gnome doesn't replicate the classic Windows desktop experience.

    [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Icons on the desktop is a non-feature for most gnome users

    Yeah because everyone who uses them is on KDE now.

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    [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 weeks ago

    XFCE: including it in the meme is bloat

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I really don't want online accounts integration in my DE though. I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

    In theory the one place where you can enter your Nextcloud or whatever credentials and syncing for calendar, mails, file storage ect. happens automatically everywhere after confirming which services should connect.

    It's not my personal must have feature but when it works, it's alright.

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    [–] vrjvrr@infosec.pub 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Konklusion was right there.

    [–] crates@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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    [–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    On other news, KDE works, and Gnome doesnt; so that koncludes it for me

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    [–] LetchLemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Yeah dont love how kiki the squirel looks like a child in a bikini wtf.

    [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I see someone wants to run for president

    [–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    No, they said they DON'T like it!

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    [–] azureskypirate@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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    [–] deeves@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

    These are only the safe ones, you coward!

    [–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I like Gnome. I like KDE, too. I actually think they're both great, in their own ways, but I personally prefer Gnome.

    I've only used KDE until recently because it's pretty familiar feeling after coming from windows, but my wife recently put gnome on her laptop and she loves it. I've used it a bit, and besides just being unfamiliar I do actually like it.

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    [–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 25 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Are we sure that Gnome is the most popular? I would've expected KDE to be the most popular one, even not considering the mascots.

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    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    This fanart looks problematic.

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    [–] webpack@ani.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    ironic how the gooner one isnt the one with the foot

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    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    KDE got around to updating the theme Kpersonalizer.

    Original for those who don't remember what it was like:

    Jokes aside: I love KDE. Gnome is an idea that would work if you could actually do anything with it (maybe always adding extensions means they should you know make it functional).

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    [–] Object@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    In case you're wondering, there are 31 explicit entries that has Konqi tag on e621.

    [–] TipRing@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

    I was going to mention that there's probably a lot of people who don't know what e621 is, but then I remembered what community I was in.

    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Heh. My Linux started with Ubuntu like many others. I appreciated GNOME.

    Then I got confident enough to distro hop and with that cam DE hop. Can't deny KCD is just so much better for the kind of user I am.

    It's just kinda nice having your computer do what you want it to do, ya know?

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Mhm yeah Kingdom Come Deliverance sure is a nice game series.

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    [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Another reason why Linux fanboys are so silly.

    It's just whether you grew up / are more comfortable using Windows or Mac.

    I grew up on Mac OS. My first laptop was the classic translucent blue clamshell iBook running OS X Cheetah. So when I first tried Linux, I used Gnome.

    I switched to Windows when I got into gaming. But then when I got a Steam Deck, I decided to finally make the change. So now I'm much more comfortable using KDE.

    QED.

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    [–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Konqi nooooo 😭

    [–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Do the results for foot_fetish apply to gnome?

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    This must be about Gnome 2.8 when Gnome indeed was by far the most popular desktop environment on Linux.
    And then Gnome 2.8 was deprecated and no longer maintained, and for years after Gnome Shell was complete and utter shit.
    IMO it still is, because they have changed fundamentals like how virtual desktops work, that disrupt my workflow.

    I agree Gnome is more elegant, but that's irrelevant when key fundamentals simply don't work anymore.

    So to get the desktop I like to actually use, I use KDE instead.

    Edit: Final release was 2.32 as u/esc correctly writes below.

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    [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Why not Konclusion?

    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Quick, someone make a mascot for KATE!

    Also KDE supports window decorations under Wayland, and also a lot better IMHO.

    [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 34 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Kate actually does have a mascot, Kate the Cyber Woodpecker

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