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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

“You can’t fool your base.”

Why not? It’s worked for more than a decade.

It should read “You’re hurting us now and not just the people who disagree with us, so that makes us mad! And only about the issues that hurt us, everyone else getting screwed is fine!”

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Being fooled is like, their whole thing lmao

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[–] dandan@lemmy.world 229 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“You can’t fool your base,” they say without even a hint of irony.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 60 points 5 days ago (2 children)

We're unfoolable!

*get fooled by their sweater while trying to get in

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"I can't wait to receive my new high quality, US-made Trump phone!"

-- The same fools

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[–] WhereGrapesMayRule@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You fool me once...You fool me. The point is you can't get fooled again.

-George W. Bush

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Fool me once . . . Shame on . . Shame on you . .
Fool me twice . . . Y- . . You can’t get fooled again.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

For the curious, this quote is because he realized mid-sentence (literally as he was saying “fool me once”) that he was about to give democrats a nice juicy “shame on me” sound bite to use in all of their ad campaigns.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So instead he mangled the phrase so badly we're still making fun of him for it twenty years later?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey, but no ad campaigns, though.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

fooling his base is the basis of his entire success

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Fool me once, shame on me,

Fool me twice,

Please fool me

Please

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

Fooling your base is literally every maga policy

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You cannot trust anything that Iran signs

Can't believe we got to this, but at this moment I trust the word of Iran over that of the usa.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago

Iran has a vested interest in keeping its word. For one, international diplomacy generally requires a certain trust that the other party will uphold whatever agreement was made, which is why a president arbitrarily cancelling agreements is so detrimental to a country's international reputation and diplomatic standing. Moreover, the old Iran Deal was favourable to them: Get the global powers off their back so they can focus on local matters (much to Israel's dismay, but that's a separate topic I'd rather not start here).

To break the terms would have been really fucking dumb, which is why I'm also inclined to believe that the dispute over whether long-range missiles constituted a breach was genuine, and not just a "try to get away with it" tactic.

Of course, as we know, the US ended up going back on their word, Iran had to follow through on their counter-threat, things are shit now and it turns out waging war is kinda expensive so now they're back to the negotiating table.

And I'm pretty sure that Iran will, again, get a solution worth sticking to. So yes, I agree: I trust Iran to be more rational than Pedonald Tantrump

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He fooled his base on every election so far.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

yup. I will never understand how he gets people to vote against their own interests time and time and time again. whether it's 'conservatives' like Kaitlan Jenner or miners or farmers or poor white shits, they're so obsessed with their own hate and "i got mine fuck you" attitude don't just step on the rake, they jump on it with both feet and a sadistic grin.

it's depressing as fuck what a drug hate is.

[–] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He loves the poorly educated.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

fool me 234,720 times, same on you, fool me.....

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (6 children)

How many people have to turn on him before he's not in charge anymore? I've been told that the vast majority of Americans are against him. It shouldn't be possible in a democracy for someone to be in charge if most everybody is against him

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

They don't have to be many people. They have to be rich people. When the rich turn on him, then he falls. That's why he spends all of his time lining their pockets.

Hell, the rich have been playing that game with each other since the game began.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Enough to both flip almost every Senate seat in contention at Midterms blue, and counteract all the Republican attempts at gerrymandering and electoral interference that will inevitably come.

A gargantuan effort but not statistically impossible

I think things will have to get truly bad by November for that to happen...

Honestly, I think Trump is more likely to be replaced by the 25th Amendment than impeachment.

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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 79 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The base is taking about Iran and not the Epstein files. I'd say Trump's done a fine job fooling his base.

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"You can't fool your base!"

um... sure.

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[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 60 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lol you can't fool your base

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh good grief. So some of them don't like his Iran deal, that's not 'turning on him'. They would all still 100% vote for him and will vote for whoever he tells them to, as we've been seeing in the repub primaries. They'll still fall for any scam he throws at them and are perfectly happy to have their taxpayer dollars go to billionaires and grifters while their own benefits are dismantled and their rights taken away.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago

He's been doing exactly that for over a decade.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"You can't fool your base."

Nope but you can discard them when you are done.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

Bullshit. His base still has over 80% approval rating on him. Fuck off with these headlines. His supporters are not "turning on him" for fucks sakes.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

You can always fool fools.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"You cannot trust anything that Iran signs"

Can you trust anything the US signs?

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I was actually wondering if Iran violated the agreement passed with Obama. As far as I know, they didn't. They had checks from the IAEA to make sure they were not trying to get nukes. They respected their deal.

It was torn apart by Trump for no reason other than his hatred of Obama and put back sanctions for no reason. So the US is the part that violated the agreement, and Trump is the reason he can't get any good deal with Iran because now, they don't trust him.

Actually, Trump hardly respect any deal he signs…

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

he could have left JCPOA alone and iranian reactors would be observed and regulated. No need to murder children, no reason to get dragged into a military adventure that will alienate the region and murder children for generations, but no, it was an Obama thing, it had to go.

He's so stupid and racist he couldn't even leave something that benefited the US and region alone because a black man who humiliated him by being competent was part of the agreement.

He's such a pathetic shitbag.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

I’ll believe it when I see it. They’ve been “turning” on him for ages and always keep coming back for the racism.

These rubes were followed twice, years apart. These guys are perpetual marks.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Cute. Obviously he can fool his base, but I'm up for anything that makes them turn on him.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"You can't fool your base"

lol. lmao, even

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are so incredibly stupid

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[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

How can you not be able to fool that which does not want to learn?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

LOL, the very fact that PEDOnald the Pumpkinhead is in office gives the lie to "you can't fool your base":

  1. They think he cares about them.
  2. They think an effete elitist from Manhattan is a REEL MURIKAN.
  3. They think he was a successful businessman.
  4. They think he's "great at deals".

And so on. Of course, you could have asked almost any liberal about any of the above, but would the base ever listen to a liberal? Fuck no, that might make them gay.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"Fool me once, well okay. Fool me twice, well okay. Fool me three times, well okay. Fool me......

........

........

Fool me 847,382 times, well okay. Fool me 847,383 times... hey... umm... wait a minute... umm...."

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn’t matter if they turn on him, if a peaceful agreement is made all Donny has to do is give a speech declaring absolute total victory then they will be back on his crusty Cheeto dick just in time to start a new war with Cuba and Greenland. And right after that Israel will continue bombing Iran out of spite and to get America to eventually do a full scale invasion just in time for Donny and the GOP to attempt to stop the midterms from taking place.

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[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

No they don't

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