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I know there are similar communities like !buyitforlife@slrpnk.net about finding products that you don't break after a year, and any number of buy<insert_country_here> communities. I'm looking for a community specifically for finding reputable products that aren't sold on Amazon, regardless of where the seller or buyer is, and regardless of the ethos of the seller beyond making quality products.

Edit:

There's also !deamazon@piefed.social, but that's more about general anti-Amazon sentiment than specifically helping steer people away from Amazon's online retail monopoly.

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[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 5 hours ago

Or maybe your country has local e-shops aggregator.

For example, in Italy we have TrovaPrezzi. They just aggregate products from many different online shops.

Then you can easily buy the products you want from small shops.

[–] Wrdlbrmpfd@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Nice idea. But I guess there are still too many Amazon fanboys for that.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't supported Amazon in over 15 years. I just stopped buying from them. Most of the stuff they sell, you can buy directly from the manufacturer or on eBay. There was one USB hub that amazon sold that i could only find on amazon, so i just chose a different brand and got it on eBay.

Really not that hard to avoid amazon entirely.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

One problem is that Amazon forces any 3rd-party vendor who sells their stuff on Amazon to charge at least the same price everywhere else, so even buying directly from them, they have to sell it to you for at least what you would pay on Amazon.

BUT Amazon has to take their huge 50% or even higher cut, so to be able to sell on Amazon the manufacturer has to raise their price on Amazon, otherwise sell at a loss.

OTOH if they don't sell on Amazon, they lose massive amounts of sales because of Amazon's almost total market dominance. So they sell there and then also raise the price everywhere else too because they had to agree to do that.

The loser is the consumer, no matter where you buy stuff from. It would take a massive deliberate boycott of Amazon to undo this scam. Most people don't even realize how this scam works. There should be an outcry and the government should pass a law limiting how much of a cut Amazon can legally take, and/or block them from forcing vendors into the pricing contracts, but obviously that's not going to happen in our oligarchy.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I found the best way to avoid Amazon was just to buy a lot less pointless stuff.

If you don't buy that bluetooth shower speaker shaped like a cat, you don't need to find a dodgy dropshipping company in a self storage unit that resells it.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 5 hours ago

Also now Amazon launched a Temu competitor called Haul. It's just Amazon-style pointless shit, but even worse!

[–] deknos@infosec.pub 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

so, this is more in the german area, but i know about https://lmaa.space/

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago

Already used it to inform myself for buying coffee beans, can recommend 👍

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I predict that Amazon would be the no.1 lurker in such a community.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Possibility a mod too

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you (or anyone else) end up making one, please tell me, I absolutely want to follow something like that.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

We second this, we have a LOT of online shops that we have on our phone saved and would love to share

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I left Amazon 10 years ago. I try to buy direct from manufacturer's websites, for instance, I just ordered a pocket hole jig from Vevor. I've never not gotten something because Amazon was the only source, that's not a thing as far as I can tell. Everything Amazon sells can be bought elsewhere online, sometimes for less.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Not always, but very often in my experience, the manufacturer’s own website is more expensive than Amazon!

[–] percent@infosec.pub 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

When I was an Amazon seller, I loved when people did this, and my website prices were always lower. Amazon takes such a large chunk from each sale.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

I know some retailers that cost more on their own website and/or you had to pay for extra shipping if you didn't buy like $100 worth of stuff

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't that a violation of the terms of selling on Amazon?

[–] percent@infosec.pub 4 points 12 hours ago

Having different prices for different marketplaces? No, I think that was fine back then (almost ~10 years ago), but not sure about now. And if it wasn't I guess I just didn't get caught 🙂. My prices were highest on Amazon, lower on eBay, and lowest on my site. Amazon had the highest sales volume by far though.

You couldn't directly advertise your website to Amazon customers though, if that's what you mean. Some sellers had other ways... I think I remember some sellers including a small card in their packages that would say something like "Register your purchase at https://... to extend your return period" (or activate a warranty, receive a coupon code for another purchase, etc.). Or maybe it would ask them to send an email instead of going to a URL (Amazon sellers can't see their customers' email addresses). Something like that.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Not as far as we know. At the company we used to work at we sold on several different platforms including Amazon and eBay.

[–] Doublenut@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

The one place I'm having issue with this is appliance parts. Every time I try to buy from an appliance parts retailer on line it takes weeks to get my part. It's either that or I call a local repair shop that has parts in stock and will sell it to me if I have the time to get out to their location an hour and half away between 9 and 3. Man I'm just trying to fix the washer when I get home from work. I dont have time for all that or the time to wait for the part, laundrys gotta get done!

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

There will always be exceptions.

Local>Vendor>Ebay>Amazon.

Stop that workflow where it makes sense.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

some brand name items can be bought directly from the online store's company website, like for phone cases, screens, toothpastes that arnt well known brand names. most of them require you to buy a certain amount in order to get a discount or free delivery, it might be more expensive than going on amazon or other online retailers.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I tried to make one literally called not-Amazon but pretty much everybody had an opinion on how I was doing it wrong and I just didn't have enough emotional bandwidth to deal with it. Would be happy to be a secondary mod if somebody else has the energy to deal with those people.

[–] amgine@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is the issue I’ve had with many of my ideas. So I stopped asking people and just started doing things the way I want to do them, instead of getting negative responses and not starting at all.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

Yeah but I've got ideas I have more to contribute with like my biggest project on fedi is !DIYMentalHealth@lemmy.dbzer0.com which is an effort to create a slightly more structured mental health support space that gives people specific tools and education to get by when they can't afford a professional.

The biggest thing holding me back right now is that I think the space would really benefit from a bot. I tend to be kind of flaky and lose focus and I have all the posts written but often forget to actually post them once a week. I think if I could do that plus an automatic weekly check in thread I might be able to kickstart some better engagement.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago

everybody had an opinion on how I was doing it wrong and I just didn't have enough emotional bandwidth to deal with it

Straight up why larger communities often have mods with terrible personalities. They're the only ones who dgaf enough.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I want more on this too. Amazon's monopoly has made it so hard to find alternative online stores to buy a lot of stuff, particularly if I don't already know the name of a trusted manufacturer off the top of my head. Even competitor companies like Target and Walmart often offer less selection with higher prices and slower shipping. Also why is it that online retailers seem so scammy these days? Most brands seem to be new/disposable Chinese company names I've never heard of and reviews seem inflated/bot generated.

It seems like my local thrift store has the best quality to price for a lot of stuff, but they don't always have something I'm looking for

Another issue: multiple times I have gone out of my way to avoid Amazon only to find out the company is still using Amazon for delivery anyway. The most recent one was shoes. I literally went to the physical store to try on shoes, but decided on a color/size combination that they didn't have in stock. The sales person did their magic to order the shoes for me, and they were still fucking delivered by Amazon.

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Drop shipping has become a really big thing online. I just watched a video about people creating fake sad stories to push "handmade products". All cheap mass manufactured shit from China.

Hard to find legit businesses right off the rip since it seems everyone is trying to scam these days.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

Yep! The monopoly is strong.

Sometimes, the item directly from the company website use Amazon to ship it.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually don't totally agree with the shipping part of this.

Anecdotally, I've found that pretty much all of the "big box" stores have good shipping now, and often for free (so long as you hit a price point, of course). And at least in my city, Walmart or Best Buy often ships within a day and it only takes 2-3 days to get the product(s).

Now, there can certainly be a conversation on whether or not it's good to buy things from these companies, which is a good conversation to have. But their shipping is often good.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

A ton of brands and websites have rewards or loyalty programs that offer free shipping over $35 or whatever as a perk, which means I get a lot of free shipping off Amazon.

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[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For gauging product quality, I'd also throw in repairability, with https://www.ifixit.com/repairability being a good index. Use this kind of info to choose the product model, then buy it used or refurbished on craigslist/kleinanzeigen/leboncoin/ebay.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

I go to ebay and select "Canada Only" when trying to find a particular item. (Am Canadian)

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I look around on Amazon if I want to get idea what's there. Then once I get better idea of what I want I go to eBay and price compare websites and buy there.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

and then ot comes in Amazon packaging. At least for me it pften does.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

Not my stuff.

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