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[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For some reason I knew it was technology connections just by reading the title

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The man spent like half an hour discussing light switches.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

And I watched every second of it

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

19 minute video on air fryers? I don't own an air fryer. I'm not in the market for an air fryer. I'm not very interested in air fryers.

technology connections

Fucks sake

Clicks link

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Convection ovens. The branding of 'air fryer' always makes me cringe.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My oven has gas burners in the top and bottom of the oven, and a tiny fan in the back for convection bake. The wee fan is meant to help distribute heat evenly throughout the oven. Convection is meant for baking multiple trays on both racks - it spreads the heat evenly throughout.

The air fryer has a big fan right behind the big heating element, which sits a few inches above the food, and blasts heat directly onto the food.

Similar components, but entirely different results.

Your comparison is rightly dispels the misconception that any “frying without oil” is happening though. An air fryer is closer to an oven, convection or otherwise, than it is to a deep fryer and pan-frying with oil. You just won’t get the same speed or results with a convection oven, though. They’re different designs.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not entirely against calling it frying, in both cases you have heat transfer by immersion in a dry liquid as contact medium, as opposed to heating with infrared radiation (e.g. toaster, many kinds of spits), direct contact with no or little contact medium (hot pan with no/minimum oil, waffle iron), using water (which is wet) as contact medium which invariably makes things soggy instead of crispy and thus very different, or directly moving the atoms in the food (microwave).

That is: If you have a look at all the different ways to transfer heat into things then frying and baking are actually darn close to each other in the first place, compared to the rest. It's the reason you can definitely make a passable calzone in a pan. And air frying in particular brigs baking into the frying range of crispiness so I'd say fair is fair, you can fry with air as long as you make you air mean enough.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Any decent electric convection oven has an element around the fan. Mine is 2500w, 1000w more than most countertop appliances.

https://www.partselect.com/PS2368832-Frigidaire-318255511-Convection-Element-2500W.htm

Even the ones built into microwaves have it but they're a measly 900w it seems.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175088724146

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You should watch the video, they had that same thought

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

it's the same general idea but they don't perform the same.

[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

That's a big point in the video, the creator also thought that they're just glorified convection ovens. But it turns out that air fryers and convection ovens are optimized for different tasks so the food comes out differently, and there are other advantages to an air fryer too, depending on the situation. Just because they use the same technology doesn't mean they do the exact same thing.

someone in the comments on youtube pointed out that many purpose built air fryers exhaust the air so the interior stays drier, where convection ovens recirculate air and hang onto humidity.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Watch the video

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

great. now I want a sunbeam radiant control toaster.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

My client struggles with showing youtube thumbnails but at this point I recognize technology connections videos just by how he writes his titles.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Most of them are a pain in the ass to properly clean. My mom has a ninja air fryer. There is no way to remove the top grate. The grease builds up in it.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I got an oven with grill and fan forced, do I really need an air-fryer?

I don't see an overwhelming reason to be honest.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't need it. You won't get the same end result with your setup, but if you don't feel like you're missing anything there's no reason to get one.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So they're for... Small meals, fast(er)meals (frozen is still a quick meal), and ... those people without a normal oven?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well... kind of? I have a normal oven, but still appreciate my air fryer. The quality of breaded or fried foods is better than a normal oven, and I use less energy. The difference isn't big enough to make it a completely different thing, but it's there.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

TIL the new “air fryer” version of my old convection toaster over is the same device, but with a basket accessory.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pff, it's just heating and stirring the air, not frying it.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago