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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

And all that for some shitty pngs and the pleasure of not being attended by actual people.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 235 points 1 week ago (34 children)

generate the waste heat of 23 atom bombs a day.

Americans will do anything but use the metric system.

No, in this case humans are just really bad with large numbers. Most people can't even get the difference between a millionaire a billionaire or a trillionaire, despite orders of magnitude difference.

Sometimes you have to use the power of a bomb or a star, or the amount of time it's going to take for heat death of the universe just to get the point across.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 81 points 1 week ago (10 children)

At least in this case it gets across the truly stupid amount of energy being wasted. As a general rule I think that if you can boil one of the great lakes with your daily thermal output you probably shouldn't be doing it.

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[–] Elshender@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I still don't quite understand. Can I get a conversion into how many hotdogs the heat could cook?

[–] osbo9991@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Let's assume Costco size hot dogs (1/4 lb, or 0.11 kg), with an internal temp increase from fridge temperatures (37 F, or 276 K) to 165 F (347 K). Let's also assume the heat capacity of the hot dog is about 3000 J/kg*K. To heat up a single hot dog takes this much energy:

q=mc*deltaT => q=(0.11 kg)*(3000 J/kg*K)*(347K-276K)=23,430 J of energy.

The heat capacity here is 9GW. That is 9 gigajoules of energy per second, or 9 billion joules every second. Divide this by the number of joules to cook each hot dog gets us the number of hot dogs that could be cooked every second:

9,000,000,000/23,430=384,123 hot dogs/second

With this hot dogs per second figure, we can find how long this energy source would take to feed the entire US population a Costco hot dog.

342,000,000 people/384,123 hot dogs per sec=890 seconds

Converting this to minutes:

890/60=14.8 minutes

So, this source of energy could feed the entire population of the US a Costco hot dog in less than 15 minutes if properly harnessed.

[–] Elshender@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

Finally someone speaking english.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

The math you just did terrifies me and I have no way of verifying it, so I'll just say good job and leave it at that.

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[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 124 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't wait to eat Kevin.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m fine with just cooking him and throwing the meat away

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[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 90 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Well, Davies has a point, communicating scale is the difficult part.

So, for those familiar with computers, think Scott this:

A typical Word doc or PDF is several hundred KB's (kilobyte =1000 bytes) to 1MB (Megabyte 1m bytes) a jpg picture your phone takes, is 3-4MB. A full HD movie streamed online will be about 9GB (Gigabyte =1b bytes) of data. Obviously a movie is thousands of "images" stitched together so is file size with be significantly more. The same goes for that energy usage.

Similarly, Homes are measured in kW usage (technically usage per hour or kWh) on a monthly basis. You might use ~800-1,000kWh per month, maybe 10,000-11,000kWh a year. But let's call it 1000kW are used, so 1mW or 1 megawatt. This data center would need at least 9,000x more energy per month as it's gW scale, not mW or even kW... Plus, its power plant will be close by, so you're creating heat and pollution to make the 9+gW energy and then USING up that energy and dumping 8+gW of heat, so his example calculated 16gW of heat being generated... That's the equivalent of a good 16k homes, or ~60,000 people use.

THE KICKER that's just to run the data center, think of the demand for the HVAC and ecological damage to using a lake's water to cool equipment (water would be coming out over 100⁰F)..

Fuck AI!

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also, the lake they’re using to cool the data center is in critical condition for drying out. The great salt lake is at a tipping point where if they can’t maintain the current levels it could turn into a toxic dust bowl effect where all the toxic shit that’s collected in the dead lake for millennia will end up in the air in the valley.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Which is really weird. The world desperately needs desalination for freshwater but we say we can't do it because the water is too expensive due to energy costs, yet here is another case where we piss away heat. Free market fundamentalism will be the death of us all. No civilization this reckless was meant to survive.

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[–] davad@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One small correction. You switched units. You started with Watt-hours (kWh, energy) and then switched to Watts (GW, power). With the right units, it's even more dramatic.

There are an average of about 730 hours in a month. If a home consumes 1000 kWh per month, that's an average of 1.3 kW. If we divide 9 GW by 1.3kW, we get 6.9 million.

So this data center will use the same amount of energy as over 6 million homes. For reference, Utah has a population of 3.5 million (total people, not total number of homes).


Here's another way of comparing the numbers. If this new data center uses 9 GW of power 24/7, that's an about 6,500 GWh per month, or a little under 79,000 GWh per year.

In 2025, Utah produced a new record of over 35,000 GWh.

So this data center would more than triple the amount of energy produced in 2025.

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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Just a quick correction, its M capital for Mega, m is for milli.

And Giga is also G capital, not sure there is a low case g for engineer notation.

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[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The funny thing is that Utah has some of the worst air pollution in the world. Yet they keep pushing to make it worse. I remember a couple of years ago in summer doctors in the state beg government to restrict private cars till the air problem clear up and the gov told them to fuck off.

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2024/08/02/utah-bad-air-quality-pollution-salt-lake-city/
https://www.kuer.org/health-science-environment/2024-01-23/reaching-for-air-there-are-solutions-to-pollution-but-will-utah-leaders-listen

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I can imagine why it’s like that, going to SLC as someone from the flat part of NJ was astounding. It didn’t matter which direction I looked, there was mountain encircling us.

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[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Kevin O’Leary is a parasite

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

All the shark tankers are.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In a state already facing a water crisis.

Yet they'll still vehemently and gleefully vote Republican.

I feel bad for the few there who see this crisis for what it is. Expect water refugees from the American Southwest very soon.

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[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And then conservatives are like, why do people keep trying to shoot at us?

BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO KILL US ALL YOU DAFT CUNTS

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[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (14 children)

An "atom bomb" is not a standard unit of measurement. It's less than helpful.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Pffft. An 'atom bomb' as a unit of measurement is (roughly) equal to:

ff x (hdl/afps) x solh x amb

Where:
ff = football fields
hdl = hot dog lengths
afps = average Floridian pants size
solh = Statues of Liberty heights
amb = average medical bill.

[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

Americans will do anything but use the metric system.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

this is just another grift… half of the smaller data centers have been cancelled already with most of the rest near impossible to comblete in the promised timeline

he is just making bombastic promises to rake in some fools and their money

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Decades of protests and innovation to stop climate change

VS

one AI techbro

Poof! Progress gone, just like that

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

that is because protesting just raises the awareness of the issue. Its better than nothing, but only direct action has any effect on anything at this point. The billionaires should be considered to be akin to foreign occupation and resisted accordingly.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also any time someone uses the word 'hyperscale', my spidey senses start tingling.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Giving CANADIANS US Taxpayer Dollars to ELIMINATE our Water Supplies is putting AMERICA FIRST!

-Republicans!

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I propose a hyperscale billionaire cooking center where we drive the heat of 23 atom bombs directly up Kevin's ass.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago

Ah, another Captain Planet villain added to the roster.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Didn't he and his wife also killed someone while driving their boat drunk?

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They should really try boiling some water with that waste heat, maybe make it spin a turbine or two.

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why does this guy have to be such a massive piece of shit.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

Because he floated to the top. Better question is why do we allow such massive pieces of shit to accumulate in the first place?

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like everyone went mental. No one needs this shit.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone went desperate. It's the only thing keeping the economy up and keeps USA just ahead of competitors. It this gambit fails, and it looks like it will, USA will become like the UK i.e. a remnant of what once was a global empire, still a player but not the top dog anymore.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

But at least when I have to write a professional sounding email I can shut off my brain and make the computer cluster do it!

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

It'd be better for earth to nuke every billionaire

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

The methane production from all the bullshit that guy spills should be able to power it

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