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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

sounds like crowd control weapon research

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Jfc sounds like opportuniatic capitalists cutting corners and not caring about the populace

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I remember when people complained about sound coming from wind turbines. That was bad

This? Good

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It does matter if the complaints are real or fabricated, turns out. Research on that topic confirmed that wind turbines generate very little infrasound, further reduced by their great distance from the ground. The amounts in question are less than that generated by other ubiquitous machines, so it is very safe to conclude that those complaints are phony, advanced by enemies of alternative energy.

I can't speak to the validity of these complaints, but there are a lot more motors running a lot faster in a data center than in a wind power generator, so it is at least plausible. The research will demonstrate if this complaint is valid or just more activism.

[–] sup@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago

Just looked up, a windturbine has less infrasound then cars. (german Source) I would guess the datacenter could have more infrasound and thus be a bigger problem. They mention a study about windturbine infrasound and they point towards nocebo effect, but maybe windturbines are at a border where the health effects are very difficult to measure. So maybe studies about the infrasound of datacenters could find something. On the other hand, datacenters bring a lot more pollution factors, like light-, air- and waterpollution.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I dislike hypocrisy as much as the next person. So I feel where you're coming from. At the same time, the wind turbines are generating power that everyone benefits from, whereas these things are consuming power for a product that very few people actually like or even want to exist. So I think its fair to say that maybe the noise is tolerable when you're getting something you actually want out of it. Also, wind farms are usually built further away from large population centers, whereas data centers are because it's cheaper to build them in areas with lots of people around. So the concern does seem a little more irrelevant to wind farming as a whole than data centers.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity, what makes them cheaper to build in populated areas? Doesn’t that mean the land value is higher when purchasing/leasing the site?

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The article alludes to it: "The United States does not lack flat, open land away from population centers on which to build data centers. However, AI hyperscalers prefer to locate their campuses near existing infrastructure so they don’t have to spend massive amounts of time and resources building everything from scratch."

It costs a lotta money to run electricity and water to the middle of nowhere.

Also, companies are doing research to specifically build in areas where they believe the local community is not politically empowered to prevent it from being built. This guy goes into some more depth at this timestamp: https://youtu.be/1CpVmPh3BDE?t=831

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Fascinating thank you. Brings me back to ArcMap training days. I wonder if they have some data layer for “local population acceptance factor”.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure they do. Probably using an AI model to calculate it tbh

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

"3.7 MWh of power annually" - With authors like this, it's no wonder some people find math and science confusing. I actually thought Toms Hardware was a quality site.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Toms used to be solid. I can't place my finger on it, but sometime around the 2010's everyone stopped using them as references and they slid somewhat into obscurity.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok technically it's energy not power, big deal. Sometimes electricity is colloquially called power.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Both energy and power relate to electricity formally. Power is energy over time. There is no reason to confuse the two in writing, especially if they know enough to use MWh.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Let's use science to determine what is happening.This can be measured. Use a blind study to evaluate the impact.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

aren't blind people more susceptible to auditory stimulus? wouldn't that skew the numbers?

/s

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Include that as a variable. It's done all the time.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

but how could they make sure since it's a blind study? maybe they're only pretending to be blind.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

The article states it is sound frequencies “not normally measured”. It doesn’t say “can’t be”, so the first step is an objective measurement

Of course it goes further to point out that some things can only be heard/felt by a tiny percentage of people - the hard part is setting the allowed threshold and not perhaps that’s where your blind study idea would be helpful

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 12 hours ago

Me when an AI data center is too close:

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 20 points 16 hours ago
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

even if the infrasound is debunked, the pollution, the power usage, cost would be much more annoying.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Homemade mortars have a very high CEP but thankfully, data centers have a large footprint.

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