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All great and I'd love it BUT
Will it track the shit out of me?
And before anyone goes "But Murrica!", I don't give a shit. I don't care who wants to spy on me, the USA, China, Russia, fuck all those dictator governments, I want NOBODY spying on me.
I want MY car, if I really need one, to be MY car, and nobody else's.
Love how they translate the price to USD when sadly there’s no way in hell well ever see this car in the US.
I'm wondering if I can ship one over?
Take a vacation to Mexico, buy one there, and drive it back. Perfectly legal and you will still come out ahead and get a vacation thrown in
Take a vacation to Mexico, buy one there, and drive it back. Perfectly legal
if the car has passed US testing, and you pay the tariffs. You cannot just import a new car.
It’s not a new car if you’re driving it over the border. Then it’s a used car. Volvo does something similar by offsetting someone visiting Sweden and driving the car round a bit before flying back and having their car delivered.
The bigger issue is, you need to have the right to buy a car in Mexico (legally a resident, usually), and have the ability to wire transfer in full (you’re not getting a loan). Then you pay a 2.5% duty when you bring it in.
Edit: Canada is probably the better place to try this gray importing scheme as their cars actually meet required US standards.
I believe you can import them, but it is a 100% tariff. So your $22k car becomes $44k plus delivery charges and local registration fees/taxes. So very quickly becomes not worth it. Which is why the tariff exists.
There is also the matter of which charging standard is needed. The US of course not using the same standard as the rest of the world.
Is it not worth it? Are there EVs in the US that are sub $44k?
Chevy Bolt, $28K, Nissan leaf$32K, Hyundai kona, $34K, Subaru Uncharted, $36K, Toyota BZ $36K, Ioniq 5, $38K,
...Chevy Equinox, Toyota CH-R, Tesla model 3, Ford Mustang Mach-E, Kia EV6, all below $40K.
I love my Leaf. Best car I've ever owned.
What, you even have imperial chargers?
People also forget that there’s this pesky thing called safety standards and getting certified can make the car cost more when it’s officially released. Don’t forget that in China there’s 599 other electric car manufacturer so it’s race to the bottom in terms of pricing.
Hmm, come to think of it this means that cars should be much cheaper than it is and this makes me sad.
Then it will cost >$50k and you have a car no one can fix.
You forgot what ever extra tax the orange dumb shit adds
Why give the price in USD when the people who need them most in the US will not be able to buy them?
To specifically spur ground-up pressure on the US government to try to allow BYD and other manufacturers direct access to the US market, since there are effectively no EV manufacturers in the US except Tesla.
It’s a 68kWh pack. The 5 min metric is 60% of that. So 41kWh. To do that in 5 min would require 490kW chargers. This is pretty much only available from the latest Tesla super chargers. So while it’s great that the car can support that, articles about it should include the fact that there is very limited support in charging networks for it.
All 3 metrics are important to evaluate together:
All 3 matter. #1 is an engineering flex and helps avoid bottlenecks into #2, which you correctly describe as being an important metric, and affects just how far you can expect to drive off of that charge. And #3 translates into actual user experience, which is also really important. None of the three metrics can be assumed by simple multiplication of the others, because none of it goes at constant rates in all contexts.
Yeah.... My usual experience is to connect to 150kW changer and get half of that. Better battery will not magically fix shitty infrastructure.
That's awesome!
I'd love to have one that's a small form truck or mini-van with a flat front for maximum visibility and minimum footprint.
To be perfect: Absolutely no touch screens allowed, no internet, no satellite, honestly I'm good without Bluetooth. Make it feel like a 90s vehicle, but electric.
I missed it in the article, does it say how well it holds its charge compared to non-fast-charged ones? That tends to be the limiting factor in many things, as it's much harder on the battery. I doubt they'd be pushing it if it wasn't an improvement though
I'd really love to see how one of these does here in Northern Canada. There are almost no electric vehicles here because of the performance of batteries in the long, cold winter.
I'm probably going to end up getting the dolphin soon but it is hard for me to justify selling or taking off my 2017 petrol rav4. I know a few people that purchased BYDs and they're happy with them performance and cost wise. The government capped gas here for another 24 months so although higher than US prices, it won't get worse and I don't drive much. I have solar though and I'd love to use the excess that I currently "waste" to charge my car
I have a dolphin essential
The cheapest option
It's a brilliant little car! I have solar panels, so I charge it during the day basically for free most of the time
Does it use proprietary charging infrastructure?
Probably not but good luck finding a 600 kW charger to support that speed
88 mph and a clocktower during a thunderstorm?
Yeah, good luck knowing precisely when lightning will strike the tower.
I think I got an idea about how to make it work, but I knocked my head on the bathroom and forgot how.
Looks great, I'll take it.