My phone is on silent and mostly ignored now. I hate it
this post was submitted on 10 May 2026
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God that's how i feel about email at work. 99% of the inbound shit is trash, that 1% is my ultimate duty though.
Yeah but my company thinks that's still the best way to announce everything so I miss stuff all the time lol
I feel seen. My wife thinks I'm crazy for straight up ignoring my phone now. If you aren't in my contacts your calls are ignored and VMs are deleted without listening. Period.
You do more than I do
I've had this phone for years and I never set up my voicemail
I listen to the first couple of seconds of voicemails but 99% of the time I'm deleting at second 2 or 3.
I did get a needed call the other day, our cat had gotten its collar off and a neighbor took it to a shelter. Fortunately he was microchipped and we got a call very quickly and got him, he only had to spend about an hour at the shelter. He was still very stressed out. The neighbor was kind of a dick, there are a lot of cats without collars in our area and most of them are just outside cats that get fed outside.
Our cat used to be one of those, but the owner died and we took it, and he's 13 and doesn't want to wear a collar so he figures out how to break that mother fucker off all the time. If he didn't have a breakaway collar, he would probably choke himself to death.
What did virtual machines ever do to you?
She doesn't get it, she owes the IRS money! All they need are Apple gift cards to clear it up /s
I don't answer anything that isn't identified and that I recognize. If they leave a message I will check it. It's a pain that so many in the medical and service industries use unidentified numbers forcing telephone tag and they don't use email or text only phone calls.
Ordered some stuff online from Merrell, two days later, order cancelled because I didn’t pick up the phone to verify an order which I had already gone through two different sets of two-factor identification to complete. No worries, upon considering redoing the order, it was too much money anyway. Thanks for saving me a buck, Merrell!
What's Merrell?
Shoes. I like their shoes.
fuck the mobile system
sms, phone calls, sim cards, mobile data system
sms is way less feature complete and structurally good than options like Signal, Fluxer, and Matrix
same with phone calls
sim cards and esims are crap and could be replaced with accounts or Privacy Pass style anonymous keys
mobile data system is overcomplicated and has no reason not to just be an isp that offers mobile data
If I was magically in charge, I would make it so if you got an unwanted text or call you report it and the phone company has to pay you like $10.
They don't deal with this problem because they only care about profit.
Same with number spoofing. They own the network they can ensure the numbers are verified. Yes, there might be instance where another network connects that doesn't do verification, but all is needed is a way to signal the customer whether the number was verified or not.
Just preventing spoofing would be huge contribution as it would allow customers to have reliable blacklists.
There's legitimate uses of spoofing. If I need to make a work call from my cell phone, I don't want to share my number, so I use an app to send the call from my office number. If you work in a call center, you need the CID to point to a main line, not your desk phone. If you're working from home, you want to send the company's number - not yours. You don't necessarily want phone companies able to determine who can and cannot use CID spoofing, because they won't use it for good.
In fact - they've used it for evil in the past and are now actually prohibited from blocking spoofed CIDs. The Madison River Telephone company blocked Vonage back in the early aughts in what turned into one of the first big Net Neutrality cases when the FCC stepped in.
Essentially, they had been using the spoofed CID that's essenially a necessity of VOIP systems as an excuse to ban VOIP users from calling their customers. So the FCC ended up prohibiting telephone providers from from that practice.
But then what's the point to send that information at all is it is so unreliable?
I'm pretty sure any of those scenarios you provided could have solution that would still not compromise reliability.
For example if you are working for a specific company there could be a mechanism where company would give permission to identify as their number.
I mean right now, you can spoof the number of your company and I can spoof that number too and I don't work there, so what is the value of having that number in the first place when the recipient can't even trust it?
But if you leave that process in the hands of CLEC (telecom providers) they have a financial incentive to make the process impossible and expensive to drive customers away from cheaper alternatives like VOIP.
And the spoofing has become an endemic part of the system. Years ago, there was a separate system for phones, which is why phones kept working even when power an internet went out. That also meant the phone companies knew exactly where a call was coming from because the wire could be traced to its physical location and verified for CallerID. It was also accurate because all landlines were published unless you paid to be excluded.
But none of that is true anymore. Even when you make a call from most "landlines" these days, there's no actual landline phone system it's coming through. It's VOIP. And the same system that's used to identify your number can be used by anyone, and the phone company giving priority to certain carriers and customer as "trusted" while denying it to others raises net neutrality concerns.
It's the ongoing security vs freedom debate. You can't say the phone companies should block calls from unverified numbers while at the same time saying Google shouldn't block download of unverified apps.
You can’t say the phone companies should block calls from unverified numbers while at the same time saying Google shouldn’t block download of unverified apps.
Sure you can. There's a difference: Whether or not the owner of the handset requested the traffic.
A random APK from F-Droid isn't going to suddenly demand my attention while my phone is sitting on my desk with the screen off. An Indian man threatening to jail me if I don't mail him Amazon gift cards has and will again.
Lots of scams involve getting people to download unverified apks that are used by scammed. That's the nominal reason for Google's new bullshit.
Pretending restrictions are good for you is how these companies operate. Telecoms have been doing it for over a century. Why should we suddenly trust them to NOT be evil?
Which is why I was fine with Google's usual take, there's a switch in the options you have to turn off to allow installing software from outside the Play store. Keeps the normies on the rails, anyone who pushes the "I'll take my chances" button is assuming personal responsibility.
Meanwhile: spoofing telephone numbers. We don't have the same problem with, say, email, do we? We basically need to tear out the telephone system and replace it with something that works in the modern era, quit barely emulating the form factor of a century old system that basically doesn't exist anymore.
jtrek for prez
Or at least FCC chairman.
This is technically how it already works except for the government gets the $10 instead of us
There's no enforcement on this though.
Im not sure i want the phone company to make the decision.
It should be more along the lines of all phone companies must take a deposit to open an account. Foreign and voip calls must be linked to a deposit for the phone company to be allowed to connect those calls. A call gets reported as spam, the $ come out of the deposit, if the deposit gets used up, theyre banned from calling until they reup their deposit.
Suddenly all it takes is a bunch of organized complaints to shut down any number.
I'd take the potential for brigading if it meant no more spam calls
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How are people getting so many spam calls? I've gotten maybe 2 in the last 5 years. Not that I want spam calls but people consistently reporting getting several a week, or even day, makes me concerned I've done something wrong. Like some government system I'm supposed to be signed up to but I've somehow missed
Ironically that was the cause of the first worst scam calls. The govt had a do not call list that you could put your number on which then became THE phone book for scam calls instead of stopping them. If you've ever signed up for anything or paid for anything online and had to give your phone number, it went into a list that was sold on. With auto dialers, they just go through every permeation of possible numbers. I don't get many calls on my cell because I keep that number private and use my already compromised land line for everything.
I used to not get any as well. Then for a new job I had to sign up with an American company, and since I didn't have a company phone yet, I used my private number.
Since then it's been multiple calls/messages per day, but over the years it's died down. I fucking hate it so much.
I get them because I was jobless for six months. Now that a lot of job sites sell your data and some jobs are straight up fake to collect data, it is so hard to stay off a list.
I was talking about this with my partner. The meta now is to use a dedicated email and phone number when applying for jobs.
Where are you getting 1 phone number/email per job?
It takes hundreds of applications to get a job these days.
I think they mean one alt account from their personal email. So like person-lookingforjob@gmail.com. They might be getting a serviceable number from google or other places just so they don't expose their real number.
Yep, this is what I meant.
However, Rooster might have opened Pandora's box here. It might be possible to apply to the same job multiple times with differently formatted versions of your resumé. Every recruiter/AI has a personal preference to how you present yourself... Some preferences more silly than others.
Some mobile networks have spam protection that's enabled automatically.
You could also have a "clean" number, especially if you don't use your phone number anywhere online, haven't answered a spam call before, and nobody used it before you (or the previous user was a long time ago).
Spam callers can't robodial literally every number, so they rely on lists of phone numbers that are known to be good/active, for example if they've answered a spam call before, if the number has been in a data leak, etc.
I don't know if this is still accurate, but I have a friend who used to answer calls from unknown numbers with "hello, this is First name Lastname."
I don't even answer calls from unknown numbers. His approach boggled my mind, in part because of what you just said.
Older people do this a lot. Either their full name, or "Lastname residence"
The scary thing these days is that someone needs just a few samples of your voice to be able to clone it using AI. I suspect that scammers will do that, if they're not already doing it, then use it to scam family members. We're going to get to a point where we can't trust people are who they say they are.
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