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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

So the Nazis went to USA & are now sneaking back to Europe?

(The above was ofc sarcasm, but the rise of altrightbullshittery in EU is kinda scary.)

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 11 points 4 hours ago

My personal opinion is that alt-right is rising world-wide because democratic governments forgot that the way we eradicated radical ideologies post-ww2 was through making life of average person bearable. Radical ideologies can't find fertile ground among people who own their own homes, who can support whole family with a single job.

And if current solution to alt-right will be to just start wars, raise taxes and double down on policing... it will only give them more fuel.

[–] SupersonicHail@lemy.lol 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I know it may seem that way, but I think you have too much trust in EU. And I am living in the EU myself.

EU definitely is also playing around with totalitarianism and fascistic tendencies. It's just they're able to get away with it under guise of "think of the children", which happens to actually be widely accepted argumentation in EU, as opposed to the US where you can literally befriend the most well known PDF file and still become the president.

Also, we have lots of doofuses here that legitimately adore the mango man and his crew. I'm really not sure why that would be, but it clearly is (go to any legacy social media and see it for yourself).

I think we're in a stage of global regression of the mind. People starting to believe totalitarianism is necessary. The only country I've heard that actually firmly stands against USA here in EU is Spain.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 5 points 4 hours ago

The EU is not a single, compact entity. It’s some member states who are playing dangerously with far right forces. Which we must fight to defeat.

But even the proto-fascist Melloni is (by now) far away from the shit Americans have to endure.

[–] magickrock@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 hours ago

Can you elaborate on how you think the EU is "playing around with totalitarianism and fascistic tendencies".

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

DONT FOrget the red scare, at least for some chinese scientist, fled the state and developed fission-fusion hydrogen bomb for the ccp.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 10 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

But this doesn't necessarily mean that Europe has tons of science jobs to offer, esp. for the usually young people who use the fediverse.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Europe did set aside a huge chunk of funding to attract the fleeing American scientists

https://erc.europa.eu/news-events/news/increased-erc-funding-top-global-researchers-moving-europe-now-confirmed

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

EU and countries (national funds or direct budgets) do have plans to invest in certain industries with perhaps more emphasis on manufacturing (which includes the war industry).
The plans are there & the funding discussions too (eg how to get financial industry like pension funds to invest).

The big questions surround the big investments, like chip & (atm*) battery production (it makes sense to have one or a few big investments, but not like 10s od high-end chips manufacturers).

*battery manufacturing should at some point become an ezv standard, but not that soon

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

We're doing our best to seize this moment and offer exactly that. Funds have been strategically released to benefit from this.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

stem jobs are pretty much hard to come by , theres very little job market even in the states for fresh graduates, hence the unemployment problems, since alot of people go for CS, psych, bio/biotech(not nursing or teach). most of the current ones are looking for phd with experience, and everyones only looking for graduate degrees, because most employers rather not spend money/time to train a fresh graduate on low level work(very lazy), this is a catch22. there are jobs out there for undergrads, but its quite limited.

[–] DirtSona@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Jepp. While I know some Americans that came to European universities I know way more Europeans that went to china.

Because Germany decreased the research funding by quite a bit. It's not like we take advantage of trump politics.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It's not like we take advantage of trump politics.

Not quite true:

"In May 2025, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced the launch of the Choose Europe for Science program, with funding of approximately €500 million to attract American candidates."

https://erc.europa.eu/news-events/news/increased-erc-funding-top-global-researchers-moving-europe-now-confirmed

[–] DirtSona@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

500million is basically irrelevant.

So yes, they do something, but compared to the whole budget of research this doesn't make a dent.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 points 4 hours ago

Ir should be an order of magnitude greater than that. But it’s better than nothing.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

It's more that the brain drain to the US is now stopping.
The very wealthy ivy league and other institutions have always attracted foreign intelligentia.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 39 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Got the musk picture perfect. He looks demented and incredibly stupid

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 7 hours ago

funny thing hes an illegal alien that got his citizen ship through illegal means, but us doesnt follow on these types of things apparently.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

Yet also how he probably imagined himself in that moment.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 51 points 17 hours ago (11 children)

I wish it was easier to leave and immigrate. It's actually incredibly arduous to get all the paperwork needed for a passport, work visas, international application, etcetcetc.

Especially if you have family. Especially if you don't have a perfect little life. Needing to get documents or information from shitty relatives.... Try getting birth certs when you don't know where to look. You need that for a passport. Try getting a child a passport when their biofather is an absentee.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm assuming you're from the US based on your post. If so, you should be able to obtain a copy of your birth certificate online directly from the state you were born in for a small fee. Search online for "(your state) vital records." No shitty relative interaction required.

The passport thing for a child with absentee parents is a bit more difficult but can be done. I believe you need either a notarized affidavit or court order to accompany the child's passport application. Good luck.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

yea you can buy your certificate online, but you will have to be willing to give up more data about yourself than you like. i think your local city agency cost alot less. i gave up after i found my original , since the online one was in limbo because they couldnt confirm my moms maiden name for some reason, since she was born in china, it complicated things, because it ended up confusing them and they want more proof.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Well...they need to find the exact certificate. Of course they're going to ask for more information. And it's a legal document, of course they want to verify certain things.

I've ordered dozens of birth, marriage, and death certificates online(family tree) from different cities and different countries. Most are pretty painless and there was only one that has given me a bunch of shit for it and it's Orange County in California.

Your situation I can definitely see adding more confusion into the mix and I'm sorry to hear that, but nothing you've said so far has been obscene from my experience.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

i think you can try your states human services, or just type in how to get birth certificate, there is an online paid way, but it requires to pay more than in person, and give up more details about yourself. passports, you will have to schedule that asap(assuming you renewd within 10-15years) since appts are booked like weeks,months in advanced.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago

I was watching a deep space nine episode about a Holodeck program where a spy character comes up against a super villain.

The super villain had captured the worlds top scientists and was destroying the planet to make a private island where he could and the scientist could start again. It was very Ayn Rand coded and reminded me of Elon Musk and other billionaire Capitalist Fascists ruining the planet.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (4 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 10 hours ago

The pathway out of the US is increasingly looking like a pathway into the Global South.

Except we're in the transitional period between American and Chinese hegemonies, so there's not much demand for Western scientists just yet. Places looking to radically improve their standing in the new world order don't quite have the demand for foreign scientists that the West does/used to have just yet. While cream of the crop researchers will be able to do pretty well for themselves, I think we're about a generation away from a time when a "normal" above average Western scientist or engineer will be able to move to the (at this point former) Global South without taking a large hit to their quality of life.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

Mexico looks to US and beyond to recruit staff and students

Just got on the way to universal healthcare and the tacos are pretty good too.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You're absolutely right. What is this, the 1900s? Europe is old news - and I mean this literally, look at the demographics.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 0 points 6 hours ago

Oh good, time is still a flat circle.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Please Satan bring me a German tutor.

I've tried the Goethe A1 Deutsch app, Anki, actual German grammar primers. Self-directed learning is one of my weaknesses. Ive taken many other steps towards finding work there but learning the language has me stymied.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Hello, I'm a linguist and have done some hours as a German tutor ^^

Do you have any specific questions or is it a general problem?

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Why Germany? Other EU countries are more willing to communicate in English (professionally). Not France though. But definitely the Nordics.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

For permanent residence you will eventually need to learn the native language though, that is a requirement in most (if not all?) countries.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

All the Germans I've met speak English. Granted it's all huge nerds in engineering but still, from what I gather, two or three languages isn't uncommon.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

True, but jobs in general still require a relatively high proficiency in german.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but the country as a whole isn't all that willing to accomodate non-German speakers, at least compared to the above mentioned.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

Even if you can work and get by in english, you should still learn the native language. At least here in Finland you can't fully become part of the society unless you speak finnish or swedish. It doesn't mean you need to be immediately proficient though, but if you don't put any effort into it, you can ever only scratch the surface of the country.

As a personal anecdote, it is also incredibly rude to travel into places and expect them to cater to your culture at the expense of their own, just because yours spread wider. Doesn't matter who or where - if you plan to stay permanently or even just long-time somewhere, be prepared to learn the local language(s)

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 3 points 9 hours ago

I was raised in a region that leaned heavily into it's German heritage. Americanized and bastardized yes, but for example my tiny high school only offered Spanish and German for foreign languages. I looked into citizenry by ancestry and found I didnt qualify because my most recent 'German' ancestor emigrated from Prussia in the mid-1800s. Said ancestor is buried in the cemetery of the village church I attended for kindergarten. Of course, none of that provides me any familiarity with modern Germany. I have a slight advantage with pronunciation and not much else.

I investigated Sweden first actually, and I'd be happy to end up there. I think Scandinavia fits my political and societal opinions better than Germany (plus has WAY better metal 🤘). I have a BSc in engineering and was looking into Master's programs; University of Göthenburg has the faculty and research I'd like to pursue. The language barrier there was considerably more intimidating despite the reputation for accommodation you mentioned. Germany also has better resources for skilled foreigners looking for work.

I want out of the States. Wherever I end up I intend to pursue fluency and integration. Germany just seemed like the simplest route to me other than joining Ukraine's foreign legion as an engineer.

[–] Kage@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Im German and i can tell you: learning this language must be a bitch. Here is a example: We have Articles: "der, die, das" Usually, "der" is masculine, "die" is feminine and "das" is for objects Lets try to use that knowledge for "Bus" (same word as in english), should be "das Bus", right? It is a Object but it is called "der Bus" for some reason and that is not an exception. Every other Word is like "oops, we have rules for our articles but lets not follow them" and then some Germans get mad when you make mistakes like that

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I speak 5 languages and have some basics in others but German, no.
While I speak Flemish/Dutch (also a notoriously difficult, illogical and unnecessarily complicated language) which is Germanic and closely related I had zero affinity with it.
I immediately said no, this isn't going to work.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

The funny thing is: Gender has more to do with etymology and sounds than with actual meaning. "Der Bus" is masculine, because it comes from Latin "Omnibus", which ends in -us and is therefore masculine.

[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Sick of being pissed on by Trump

Come join the Brian Drian

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