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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wish it was easier to leave and immigrate. It's actually incredibly arduous to get all the paperwork needed for a passport, work visas, international application, etcetcetc.

Especially if you have family. Especially if you don't have a perfect little life. Needing to get documents or information from shitty relatives.... Try getting birth certs when you don't know where to look. You need that for a passport. Try getting a child a passport when their biofather is an absentee.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming you're from the US based on your post. If so, you should be able to obtain a copy of your birth certificate online directly from the state you were born in for a small fee. Search online for "(your state) vital records." No shitty relative interaction required.

The passport thing for a child with absentee parents is a bit more difficult but can be done. I believe you need either a notarized affidavit or court order to accompany the child's passport application. Good luck.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

yea you can buy your certificate online, but you will have to be willing to give up more data about yourself than you like. i think your local city agency cost alot less. i gave up after i found my original , since the online one was in limbo because they couldnt confirm my moms maiden name for some reason, since she was born in china, it complicated things, because it ended up confusing them and they want more proof.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Well...they need to find the exact certificate. Of course they're going to ask for more information. And it's a legal document, of course they want to verify certain things.

I've ordered dozens of birth, marriage, and death certificates online(family tree) from different cities and different countries. Most are pretty painless and there was only one that has given me a bunch of shit for it and it's Orange County in California.

Your situation I can definitely see adding more confusion into the mix and I'm sorry to hear that, but nothing you've said so far has been obscene from my experience.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I somehow managed it a few years ago. Doing it during COVID wasn't fun, say that much.

[–] Lupie@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

We desperately want out of the US so I've been trying to find a tech job in Ireland since 2024. I've had one interview in that time... how did you do it?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I have a British parent, got the passport about 15 years ago. Unfortunately my wife and child need visas to live here, we have to deal with that in a couple months again, and continue until they're eligible for leave to remain. I think my kid can naturalize in a while, but my wife will need to seek citizenship if Reform gets into power.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, just get the citizenship now, rather than later (if feasible); I know it's a different country so things certainly aren't a necessary one-to-one but my mom's side of the family is all immigrants and, while it might not be safe for much longer in the U. S., I'm thankful every day we're not dealing with a much more immediate Hell because they all got their citizenship finally 10–15 years ago, when conditions were much less pressing.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 6 months ago

You're probably right. She's still a little burnt out on high stakes testing after going back through uni for a new career, but we'll probably seek it as soon as they're both eligible.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It's possible to get jobs in other countries with English-only. Sorry I don't have specifics, and of course that isn't a guarantee, but I know this to be true at least in the Nordics. Some companies even communicate in English internally.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, my work in my non-anglophone country is all in English unless we're in a non-recorded verbal meeting and confirm no foreigners present.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Got the musk picture perfect. He looks demented and incredibly stupid

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago

funny thing hes an illegal alien that got his citizen ship through illegal means, but us doesnt follow on these types of things apparently.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 6 months ago

Yet also how he probably imagined himself in that moment.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

I was watching a deep space nine episode about a Holodeck program where a spy character comes up against a super villain.

The super villain had captured the worlds top scientists and was destroying the planet to make a private island where he could and the scientist could start again. It was very Ayn Rand coded and reminded me of Elon Musk and other billionaire Capitalist Fascists ruining the planet.

[–] SupersonicHail@lemy.lol 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I know it may seem that way, but I think you have too much trust in EU. And I am living in the EU myself.

EU definitely is also playing around with totalitarianism and fascistic tendencies. It's just they're able to get away with it under guise of "think of the children", which happens to actually be widely accepted argumentation in EU, as opposed to the US where you can literally befriend the most well known PDF file and still become the president.

Also, we have lots of doofuses here that legitimately adore the mango man and his crew. I'm really not sure why that would be, but it clearly is (go to any legacy social media and see it for yourself).

I think we're in a stage of global regression of the mind. People starting to believe totalitarianism is necessary. The only country I've heard that actually firmly stands against USA here in EU is Spain.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 9 points 6 months ago

The EU is not a single, compact entity. It’s some member states who are playing dangerously with far right forces. Which we must fight to defeat.

But even the proto-fascist Melloni is (by now) far away from the shit Americans have to endure.

[–] magickrock@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Can you elaborate on how you think the EU is "playing around with totalitarianism and fascistic tendencies".

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Mexico looks to US and beyond to recruit staff and students

Just got on the way to universal healthcare and the tacos are pretty good too.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 6 months ago

The pathway out of the US is increasingly looking like a pathway into the Global South.

Except we're in the transitional period between American and Chinese hegemonies, so there's not much demand for Western scientists just yet. Places looking to radically improve their standing in the new world order don't quite have the demand for foreign scientists that the West does/used to have just yet. While cream of the crop researchers will be able to do pretty well for themselves, I think we're about a generation away from a time when a "normal" above average Western scientist or engineer will be able to move to the (at this point former) Global South without taking a large hit to their quality of life.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're absolutely right. What is this, the 1900s? Europe is old news - and I mean this literally, look at the demographics.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So the Nazis went to USA & are now sneaking back to Europe?

(The above was ofc sarcasm, but the rise of altrightbullshittery in EU is kinda scary.)

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 33 points 6 months ago (7 children)

My personal opinion is that alt-right is rising world-wide because democratic governments forgot that the way we eradicated radical ideologies post-ww2 was through making life of average person bearable. Radical ideologies can't find fertile ground among people who own their own homes, who can support whole family with a single job.

And if current solution to alt-right will be to just start wars, raise taxes and double down on policing... it will only give them more fuel.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Fascism is a top-down ideology. It happens when capitalists feel that ordinary people are close to demanding a more equitable society, and they use it to divide society and assert their own authority. It is often described as a petit-bourgoise ideology because that is where the fascist capitalists find the most fertile ground - people who used to be able to afford a good life, but who can't anymore. Of course, the irony is that the reason they can't afford a good life is because the capitalists are siphoning off more and more of the wealth.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think (the reason to what are you describing, and that I agree with) it's more to do with how in any democracy needs constant work from the people (not once evey few years a popularity contest) & how it's always, at all times naturally threatened by individuals seeking power. If you one too many times don't act in time you get an autocratic gov (that it might take a lot more than voting to defeat).

Basically oblivious demos vs the rich class radicalising political/pubic systems (deregulation etc) so serve their short-term financial gain.

I recently watched this NOVA bit about power struggles in Athens (something I knew about prob 30 years ago):
dailymotion.com/xa7xuec

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Constant work on democracy is not really possible for people who already spend way too much time of the day surviving, working.

And those who don't need to work to survive probably aren't that interested in democracy working...

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 6 months ago

Yes, that is what I was basically implying.

And that is due to wealth concentration:

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[–] sanbdra@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

History keeps showing what happens when a country pushes away its scientists, teachers, and thinkers.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 15 points 6 months ago (9 children)

But this doesn't necessarily mean that Europe has tons of science jobs to offer, esp. for the usually young people who use the fediverse.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

We're doing our best to seize this moment and offer exactly that. Funds have been strategically released to benefit from this.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

stem jobs are pretty much hard to come by , theres very little job market even in the states for fresh graduates, hence the unemployment problems, since alot of people go for CS, psych, bio/biotech(not nursing or teach). most of the current ones are looking for phd with experience, and everyones only looking for graduate degrees, because most employers rather not spend money/time to train a fresh graduate on low level work(very lazy), this is a catch22. there are jobs out there for undergrads, but its quite limited.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 6 months ago

DONT FOrget the red scare, at least for some chinese scientist, fled the state and developed fission-fusion hydrogen bomb for the ccp.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Please Satan bring me a German tutor.

I've tried the Goethe A1 Deutsch app, Anki, actual German grammar primers. Self-directed learning is one of my weaknesses. Ive taken many other steps towards finding work there but learning the language has me stymied.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why Germany? Other EU countries are more willing to communicate in English (professionally). Not France though. But definitely the Nordics.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

All the Germans I've met speak English. Granted it's all huge nerds in engineering but still, from what I gather, two or three languages isn't uncommon.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but the country as a whole isn't all that willing to accomodate non-German speakers, at least compared to the above mentioned.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

True, but jobs in general still require a relatively high proficiency in german.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was raised in a region that leaned heavily into it's German heritage. Americanized and bastardized yes, but for example my tiny high school only offered Spanish and German for foreign languages. I looked into citizenry by ancestry and found I didnt qualify because my most recent 'German' ancestor emigrated from Prussia in the mid-1800s. Said ancestor is buried in the cemetery of the village church I attended for kindergarten. Of course, none of that provides me any familiarity with modern Germany. I have a slight advantage with pronunciation and not much else.

I investigated Sweden first actually, and I'd be happy to end up there. I think Scandinavia fits my political and societal opinions better than Germany (plus has WAY better metal 🤘). I have a BSc in engineering and was looking into Master's programs; University of Göthenburg has the faculty and research I'd like to pursue. The language barrier there was considerably more intimidating despite the reputation for accommodation you mentioned. Germany also has better resources for skilled foreigners looking for work.

I want out of the States. Wherever I end up I intend to pursue fluency and integration. Germany just seemed like the simplest route to me other than joining Ukraine's foreign legion as an engineer.

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago

For permanent residence you will eventually need to learn the native language though, that is a requirement in most (if not all?) countries.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hello, I'm a linguist and have done some hours as a German tutor ^^

Do you have any specific questions or is it a general problem?

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[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sick of being pissed on by Trump

Come join the Brian Drian

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