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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

People thinking this isn't a monopoly enforcement action in disguise are the same people who think banning Huawei was justified.

Google's one mistake was that they sold Motorolla to Lenovo, who ran it as low cost shovelware to make the mobile phone market in the US not look like a complete oligopoly. They kept their cost low by using complete stock Google ROMs while every other OEM exited the market.

Until recently when Lenovo properly built up their hardware lineup and started jumping ship to GrapheneOS the moment Google started clamping down.

[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

-- sincerely Apple users.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Google said installing apps from unverified developers is still going to be possible, you just have to wait for a 24 hours delay once to unlock the setting: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/03/android-developer-verification.html

What's with all these posts making it sound like sideloading is going to be removed from android?

[–] nooch@lemmy.vg 12 points 55 minutes ago (2 children)

Because they are manufacturing consent for closing the platform, calling installing apps from other stores "sideloading" and hiding the options behind "SUPERDUPERDANGEROUS" warnings, making you wait 24h for literally just installing software on your own phone. They know 99% of people won't even bother. It's obvious what they want to do, this is a step back because of the outrage, have no doubts that they're gonna keep pushing it

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

Samsung has been doing this for ages

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 1 points 43 minutes ago

You had to enable the "installing from other sources" setting long before this change, and there are people who did that. How many of those would now stop doing that just because of the one-time wait?

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 minutes ago

What if we locked up Google's store behind some obscure tech menu and make them wait a day? Them everyone would just use the built-in option, right? ... In what other industry would you say this is reasonable? How about waiting a day to buy groceries, or water, or gas for your car? ... Doesn't make sense, does it.

And why believe Google at all? A day now, but why not a week later. There's nothing stopping them from altering the deal. You, my friend, are in Lando's shoes. And you don't quite realize it yet. Tell you what, you're not allowed to reply for 24 hours. Go think about it.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

About to...?

[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 59 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

We need go start talking about the year of the GNU/Linux phone

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

PostmarketOS isn't GNU

Anyways it'd be interesting to see more niche OSes on phones (there's a mobile port of Genode/Sculpt OS for example)

[–] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 15 points 6 hours ago

Or the year of free (as in freedom) pocket computers, since the global telephony system goes against the freedoms.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 86 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

At the end of the day, all you can really do is to start treating your phone more like a phone and stop carrying it everywhere and using it for everything.

The convenience of it has made it way too easy for people to spy on you.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 minutes ago

No. You can do a lot more. You can develop alternatives and enforce anti monopoly legislation.

[–] Sisyphe@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

This. Degoogling and using FOSS alternatives can only take you so far. We should drastically reduce smartphone usage. I got a dumbphone so I can be reachable. Outside of work, my smartphone is mostly powered off. I can't realistically get rid of it, as I need a bunch of banking apps, authenticators, Google Maps at times (and no, there's no real alternative to this, everything else sucks). But I only use it when I absolutely need it. It's gathering a lot less data than it used to. I'm striving to be as low value to big tech as possible. Reducing smartphone use has also done wonders for my wellbeing. I read more, I've regained my attention span, I have more time to do stuff I like. Stop scrolling, there's nothing but bullshit on the next screen, you're not missing out on anything. Stop trying to replace one app or site with another. Just let it go, it was never worth it.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

My wife would hate it, if I were no longer reachable.

No. I haven't used Google apps on my phone for years already. That includes Google Play Services and the Play Store. Most apps are open source and I'm self hosting my media.

We gotta claw this shit back.

[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

In case you are looking for Google alternatives to other services, I highly recommend Organic Street Maps or Magic Earth or Kagi Maps instead of Google Maps. Also FreeTube or Yewtu.be instead of YouTube. And mail providers like Proton or Tuta Mail that are end-to-end encrypted. And VPNs like Proton or Mullvlad. And most of all search engines like DuckDuckGo or Ecosia or Kagi or Tor to onionize your search experience. There are many alternatives to Google. I try to recommend for people to move away from Google where they can. I realize Google has worked their way into many websites and can be hard to get around in that sense, but ad blockers and DNS resolvers like uBlock Origin and NextDNS help to prevent tracking from Google.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Yep. My disdain for the combination of fascist government where everything is surveillance, and sociopathic corporations and billionaires where everything is a cynical cash grab, overcame me excitement for tech "products" a long time ago. I'm in the US so it's especially bad.

I still have a smart phone that's 4-5 years old, and I do of course use it every day, but I consciously avoid using it every hour. I love when I misplace it in my own house, to then not look for it for hours. The only person who is going to message me anything urgent is my wife and she knows where to find me.

Constant phone addiction is one of those situations where when you remove yourself from it you can more easily see it in others. It's like there's a new form of body language where when you see that slight forward tilt of the head you know they are in the Phone Zone without even seeing the rest of their body.

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[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

As a person who uses a few sideloaded apps, this is sad news.

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[–] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 34 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 41 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Android Hostages lol, what am I supposed to do use an Iphone?

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 14 points 10 hours ago

A major hardware and software change is happening in my life too, Google, to excise you from every facet of my life.

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