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    [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 26 points 2 days ago

    wait, MS cares about their product? then why is it so... gestures vaguely at the OS

    [–] AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I am using Linux for 30 years at this point and it blows my mind that I can play AAA Windows games on Linux now

    [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    I've been fooling with Linux for nearly as long. I ain't no gamer beyond the intense game of KPatience, but I'm amazed at just how far and versatile Linux has become. From servers to gaming to real-time kernels that can power industrial machinery. It's got something for everyone.

    [–] jason@discuss.online 17 points 2 days ago

    Oof. They are about to inject a bunch of vibe code into the only part that functions well.

    [–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago (6 children)
    [–] rapchee@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
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    [–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    CachyOS for gaming PCs, Debian for browsing laptops

    [–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    Cachy is great

    [–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I've run out of devices to put Linux on, so maybe I'll create some VMs today

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    [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    An abstraction layer that reverse-engineers the Windows GPU and kernel syscalls and runs on a completely different operating system does better than the native platform after a decade or so of volunteer labor, and a few years of a couple paid devs.

    How embarassed would you be if this happened to something you spent 40 years building?

    [–] phx@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Microsoft is deep into the vibe coding now, but even before that it was cheap devs who could write somewhat functional code but had little concept of optimization, amidst a sprawling bloated OS that has only grown fatter over time.

    The mentality of RAM and storage are cheap has suddenly come to a screeching halt but it's taking to take them a long time to find talent that can actually fix the mess they've already built, especially as they try to grab more AI crap into every nook and cranny of their product line.

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

    Lmao imagine whatever improvement they try to do end up making wine even more performant

    [–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 274 points 3 days ago (17 children)

    Just a hunch, but it's not performance why peeps are migrating away from windows

    [–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 179 points 3 days ago

    The performance boost is just the icing on the cake

    [–] Elting@piefed.social 108 points 3 days ago

    Windows could run twice as fast and I still wouldn't switch back to it.

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    [–] Francislewwis@lemmy.world 86 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Linux gaming went from good luck to Windows is taking notes. That’s a pretty wild timeline.

    [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

    And it all started with a guy wanting to see sexy android ass on Linux

    [–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    So we can also say indirectly that Steam Deck wouldn't have happened without the horniness of Yoko Taro who created that android ass in the first place.

    What a chain of causality that is

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    [–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

    If anything has been a driver of human ingenuity, it's the horny

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    [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 110 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

    Lol it's true

    It's wild that they recognized that software compiled for their own operating system goes faster through an interpreter on a different operating system

    [–] JollyG@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    Whats really fun about this is Valve started investing in Linux because a bunch of changes Microsoft made to windows 8 signaled they were moving to a locked-down ecosystem to bully corporations like Valve out of the market.

    The current state of Windows is a product of MS's blind greed but the current state of the viable alternatives is, in some ways, also a product of MS's greed.

    [–] ryper@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Windows Update will also be improved, with the goal of making Windows 11 reliable enough so that a restart is only necessary once a month.

    This isn't just a matter of Windows 11 reliability, it'll take big improvements in Microsoft's quality control to stop needing to follow the monthly updates with emergency patches and hotfixes.

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    [–] londos@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Its funny because Valve doesn't need SteamOS to compete with Windows. They made it to enable playing more games, so you buy more games. If MS matches performance with Windows, Valve still wins, because its just another avenue for people to buy more games. They don't care what OS you do it on. But MS does care, because they need you on Windows to eat up your data. Which also means they're at a disadvantage in competing on performance as well, because they need your games to play as well as they do on SteamOS while also enabling all their bullshit background services and telemetry.

    [–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

    Valve also needed to break its dependency on Windows, in case MS decides to go down the walled garden route like Apple. MS making the windows store the only supported way to install apps and games would be devastating for Valve.

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    [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    "With things like instant file search!" Omg I can't, what a joke of an OS.

    [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

    The company views a third party app called File Pilot as benchmark for these [file search] improvements

    That app is still in beta and was launched one year ago.

    They're comparing the search from the native shell (where they could directly query the NTFS table like Everything does and get instant results), native to their OS with 40 years of experience with some unknown newcomer still in beta???

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    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 42 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I dont even check if a game will work anymore on Linux, it always does. Last one was Planet Crafter which was a really good game. The entire planet is changing as you terraform it which is very fun to see.

    [–] httperror418@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

    Planet crafter, steer clear of that game. That's some addictive shit, I 100%'ed that game before I even knew what I was doing. Really hit the subnautica style base building, alongside a progression system that frankly didn't take the piss with my time

    [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Getting it to work is one thing, getting past anticheat bullshit to play MP is different. Luckily I'm really only into single player at the moment, which all work flawlessly on my bazzite.

    [–] coriza@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    There are good MP games that works on Linux, but if one really cares about a specific title (and I totally get it, we want to enjoy stuff with our friends and all) dual boot I feel is a good compromise. Sure it is annoying to reboot every time you want to play some X game but nothing is perfect and you can keep your windows install pretty minimal.

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    [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Native Windows CS2 dust2 benchmark gives me 120fps over the native Bazzite Linux (fedora 43) CS2 - 180fps. Running proton CS2 gives me 100fps.

    Wish more games had native Linux ports.

    [–] webpack@ani.social 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I feel like half the games I play with native Linux ports actually perform worse compared to using proton and are buggier

    most of them are like that

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    [–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 136 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    lol. They’re not going to reduce the bloat in their OS.

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    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago

    Microsoft is doing this ONLY because they finally recognized that Linux surpassed them flying on the one thing they were king: games

    Microsoft doesn't give a single shit about end users, never had. It always had the goal of becoming the dominant ayer, then get a monopoly, and then doing absolutely nothing anymore until users complain too much. This has been their work ethos since it's inception and if you believe otherwise I have a bridge to sell you.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

    No please, continue shooting yourself in the foot.

    People begged for performance debloating for more than a decade but you're only interested now because Proton outperforms Windows.

    I would be asking for a multi million dollar salary as an NT kernel engineer to undo all the crappary intentionally introduced in every update ever since Windows 8.

    at this point just port wine to windows

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    Perhaps they are talking handhelds, specifically?


    Look. I am the biggest, most shameless CachyOS fanboy you will find. It’s like 90% of my desktop time, has been for years.

    But I’ve benchmarked a few games on Windows and Linux, Proton and native, sparsely, and Windows still has an advantage, sometimes. Cyberpunk 2077 was the biggest outlier for Proton (eg faster on Windows, enough to visibly affect settings I can manage on my 3090).

    And many native ports are still truly awful. Often where performance equates to simulation time, like modded Stellaris or Rimworld.

    Mind you, that’s not always the case. Proton is faster in many games, and (for example) anything Java like Minecraft or Starsector are just hilariously faster on Linux.


    The caveats:

    • My Windows 11 is neutered to hell. It’s a barren wasteland. Even Defender is disabled.

    • I’m running Nvidia.

    • Some of my testing is aging now.

    Still, I am a Linux shill, and think the headline is a bit dramatic. Stripped Windows is still faster in plenty of realistic scenarios.

    Since they’re referencing SteamOS, they’re probably talking about stock mobile systems, where the overhead from that mountain of background junk in Windows is much more painful.

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    [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 50 points 3 days ago (17 children)

    Some games have better performance running under wine on Linux than natively on Windows.

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