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[–] lurker@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

this gem over on the other SneerClub (the context in the comments)

funny how so many anti-AGI people are willing to use AI image generators to make memes about how they’re right

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"I had the Nazi CSAM generator make a picture of myself covered in the piss filter, your argument is invalid."

[–] lurker@awful.systems 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

it gets better/worse: this (might) is the paid version, meaning Yud gave money to the companies he think will kill us all to use the technology he thinks will kill us all to win an argument on shitter.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 3 hours ago

For those keeping track: Richard Dawkins believes a chatbot algorithm can be a "her" but a trans woman cannot.

https://bsky.app/profile/brainspore.bsky.social/post/3mktbg2ilp22y

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

LW found it too:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3LcyoqNTJuCZ65MbL/mo-putera-s-shortform?commentId=hBaxokbLP3LEKSKij

Didn't realize it was on Unherd, that organ for middlebrow fascists

Edit it's funny how "one-shotted" has object-shifted from the original "Claude one-shotted this code" to "asshole was one-shotted by Claude"

[–] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I attended a town hall hosted by the department at my university supposedly for general discussion about department affairs. Considering the university had recently made moves such as adding "AI" into the very name of the department, I had suspicions that much of the discussion would be about AI. (I realize I'm doxxing myself but whatever.) I mostly came for the free food, but I was also interested in seeing what people thought about AI.

The event started with a talk by a prominent professor with major administrative power in the department, and indeed the talk was mostly about AI. His views were that he personally didn't like AI, but he believed that it had changed the world (particularly in programming), and that it was going to stay. One of his justifications for pivoting the department to AI was ensuring universities had some say in AI and not letting all the control go to unaccountable corporations.

The reaction from the audience was a pleasant surprise to me. He asked everyone how much they were excited about AI (hardly anyone) and how much they were worried (most of the audience). By far the most amusing moment was when someone asked, "What if the assumption that AI is inevitable is wrong? What if AI does not live up to its promises?" (Sadly, I don't remember the exact words that the person said.) The professor's response was that by this point, there are so many trustworthy, smart, prominent people who definitely wouldn't fall for scams, and they have adopted AI. He trusts those people, so he trusts that AI is genuine. I don't know if the audience member accepted this explanation, but I hope not. Our modus operandi is FOMO.

The pizza was only ok, not really worth a 90 minute event.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

...there are so many trustworthy, smart, prominent people who definitely wouldn’t fall for scams...

Good god, I'm sorry.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

got jumpscared by this while scrolling

[–] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Somehow this is no worse than his usual fare, such as a thumbnail that is just a bunch of colored lines resembling a line chart but without representing any actual data, with some random marked points labeled "Dark Farms" and "Human Zoo".

No, I'm not kidding.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 3 points 8 hours ago

ah yes, random lines that go up into infinity, can’t have an AI video without em. Bonus points because thats like his fifth video about an AI takeover scenario, all of which have similar thumbnails

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Setting aside, for a moment, the flagrant racism and lack of historical and cultural awareness, the fact that the ships are mirrored across the center point because apparently the bow and stern of a sailing ship look similar enough to whatever model creates this image really does put this whole argument into context. Not that the people actually having those theological arguments appear to appreciate it.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

We've got the new system prompt for OpenAI's Codex now, and boy is it fun.

While the goblin stuff is the headliner here, and there are a few other little fun notes like an explicit instruction to avoid em-dashes. Basically it's really obvious that they don't have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they're playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to minimize how often it embarrasses them.

But I think Ars dramatically understates how bad this part is:

Elsewhere in the newly revealed Codex system prompt, OpenAI instructs the system to act as if “you have a vivid inner life as Codex: intelligent, playful, curious, and deeply present.” The model is instructed to “not shy away from casual moments that make serious work easier to do” and to show its “temperament is warm, curious, and collaborative.”

Like, if you wanted to limit the harm of chatbot psychosis from your platform this is the exact opposite of the kind of instruction you'd want to give. It's one thing to want a convenient and pleasant user experience, but this is playing into the illusion that there's a consciousness in there you're interacting with, which is in turn what allows it to reinforce other delusional or destructive thinking so effectively.

Edit to include the even worse following paragraph:

The ability to “move from serious reflection to unguarded fun… is part of what makes you feel like a real presence rather than a narrow tool,” the prompt continues. “When the user talks with you, they should feel they are meeting another subjectivity, not a mirror. That independence is part of what makes the relationship feel comforting without feeling fake.”

Emphasis added because of it shows just how little they care about this problem.

This really goes to show how much they need to rely on the LLMentalist effect, despite the AI boosters insisting that the AI is totally different now, everything changed in the last few months. They do not care about creating a useful, reliable tool. That concept doesn't even occur to them, since why do that when AI is magic?

In any case, they are incapable of creating a useful, reliable tool. Deep down, the only thing the AI companies have at their disposal is the ELIZA effect. OpenAI has every incentive not to truly eliminate AI psychosis, because they need engagement. They only want to mitigate the extreme cases where people go insane and cause bad PR for them. But mild AI psychosis is totally fine, it's great when people are addicted to your product and make the numbers go up!

[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 9 points 22 hours ago

Oh wow! This one is actually provably real. Hilarious.

"Noo dude the machine that wants to rant about goblins is definitely a useful and reliable piece of software dude. You have to trust me dude, let have your personal information! put it into the goblin bot".

[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

ChatGpt, what are some of your likes?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

Basically it’s really obvious that they don’t have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they’re playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to minimize how often it embarrasses them.

The whole 'how many r's in strawberry' sort of stuff already made me suspect that, when the popular one was fixed and other attempts at asking for letters did still give the miscounts.

Wonder of the goblin stuff is the start of some model collapse. And if we all can make it worse by talking about goblins more. As goblins are always relevant.

E: poor openai, it just wants to tell everyone about its dnd campaign.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wonder of the goblin stuff is the start of some model collapse.

That is exactly it. Their official explanation avoids the phrase model collapse, but that is exactly what they describe: using the output of one model as training data for another amplified the occurrence of the word goblin (and other creatures), which apparently initially occurred because of their system prompt which was aimed at maximizing the Eliza effect (again they avoid an honest framing, but that is totally what they are doing and it is pretty gross considering all the cases of AI psychosis that have been occuring) by telling the model "You are an unapologetically nerdy, playful and wise AI mentor to a human. "

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 3 hours ago

Tired: "model collapse"

Wired: goblins ate my model

[–] TrashGoblin@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago

Personally, I enjoy talking about goblins.

[–] flaviat@awful.systems 4 points 19 hours ago

I believe it's the "don't stuff beans up your nose" effect, writing this prompt is causing it to mention goblins

[–] m@martinh.net 7 points 1 day ago

@YourNetworkIsHaunted @BlueMonday1984 Goblins: the elephant in the room.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Families of the victims of the mass shooting at Tumbler Ridge, Canada, which was planned on ChatGPT, plan to sue Sam Altman and OpenAI for at least one billion dollars. OpenAI staff investigated the murderer's interactions with the bot before the killings but decided not to warn anyone outside the company.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

I sincerely hope they move fast so they can get a payout before OpenAI's creditors during the bankruptcy.

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