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[–] MuttMutt@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Oddly enough right before I saw this post some alternatives were in my news feed.

https://itsfoss.com/news/minio-moves-away-from-open-source/

Highlights are:

SeaweedFS

Garage

RustFS

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Of course their closed source alternative is called AIStor and it is crazy expensive because everyone now needs to pivot to AI

[–] lena 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Garage seems like a viable alternative.

[–] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Garage has been great in my homelab. It's not quite as 1:1 with S3 but it does all the basics with some really nice features.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

+1 to Garage being great! I used it for a personal project and it worked really well. A lot of S3 data browsing clients also support it natively or just through API compatibility too

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've been anti-open source for a while, they clearly don't see a profit motive without killing off their open source side. Anyone selfhosting or into open source should consider MinIO dead, and migrate. Hopefully someone forks it.

[–] Mulch5516@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Hopefully someone forks it.

people did, and then proceeded to do nothing with it.

I don't like minio's moves here or the way they communicated it but they weren't wrong when they said the community was not contributing in a significant way.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was pretty much clear since last year. At the latest in December when they switched to "maintenance mode". And now they archived it.

https://blog.vonng.com/en/db/minio-is-dead/

Alternatives include Garage, SeaweedFS and RustFS.

[–] dan@upvote.au 7 points 1 day ago

Versity S3 Gateway is another option that's trying to focus on simplicity. https://github.com/versity/versitygw

Out of all these, SeaweedFS is the most scalable. Seaweed's design is based off some of Facebook's whitepapers about their warm storage system, and it works especially well for use cases that have a very large number of small files (like images).

[–] foobaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I hope chainguard keeps maintaining their fork https://github.com/chainguard-forks/minio

[–] loric@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've honestly never understood the need for s3 buckets. WebDAV satisfies my needs. I'm sure there are some use cases that require S3, but for the life of me I can't think of one off the top of my head right now.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many cloud providers offer S3-compatible storage, so it's a common protocol to use in applications. There are even some databases like SlateDB that fully rely on object storage for everything. Being able to have local S3 compatible storage is useful if you want the storage of your local machine while still doing so over a widely compatible protocol.

[–] loric@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A quick web search shows slatedb supports WebDAV through Rust's object_store interface, or at least it does at first glance.

WebDAV is a wonderful standard and it is compatible with all kinds of things that seem to be overlooked. S3 has turned into this monster of a thing that's "owned" by AWS vs a nice usable RFC that anybody can implement and know if it actually changes.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

object_store does indeed also support WebDAV among a variety of other protocols, Apache Druid or Apache Pinot probably would be better examples. My only experience with WebDAV is with Nextcloud and hasn't been that great because it has been very slow, probably should look into it sometime.

EDIT: Apparently it supports CAS, and even has a locking mechanism

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago

In my experience I've mostly seen it used for a local equivalent of S3 to plop in your dev environment. It's pretty good if your prod depends on S3 and you don't want to deal with the cost and latency of using actual S3 buckets during development.

[–] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

S3 is not made for you. It's made for entities that need to store millions of objects, with thousands of different rules, reading/writing from hundreds of machines without coordination, and with consistent, low latency. Now that some software use that as a storage layer, having an implementation for you is useful

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

So, it's mostly used for overengineering?

[–] lena 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use an external S3 provider so that I only pay for the storage I use for the services I host. It's dirt cheap, 0.00002750€ per GiB hour (excluding tax). Self-hosting something like MinIO for your app gives you the option of switching to an external provider later on, and it gives you flexibility in the location of the storage.

[–] Tramort@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lena 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

S3 compatibility is nice I guess if you need S3 compatibility but also... why would you need that?

sshfs does everything I need and compatibility is almost native.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

SSHFS is very unreliable. At least use NFSv4 or even SMB/CIFS.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SSHFS is a hack and has nothing to do with the proposal of S3 compatible backends

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So enlighten me then, save me from my terrible hack that is working fine for me and tell me what it DOES have to do with. I thought S3 was a remote filesystem you can use, essentially Amazon's proprietary version of webdav where you get a http bucket you can only access with aws proprietary tools. What's the attraction? Clearly it seems like people love it, and I am getting dunked on for asking an honest question, which feels a bit unhealthy and unpleasant for the self-hosting community.

Am I supposed to be familiar with AWS infrastructure as a prerequisite for being here?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

ok, to start with, if you need a POSIX interface to the filesystem, you already have an SSH connection to that server, and don't need much stability across multiple clients, SSHFS may do just fine. For a homelab, that is likely the case.

now, if you're hosting a web server that needs data distributed across drives/nodes, data redundancy, and the usage is primarily programmatic, closer to a CDN's or machine learning pipeline than a single user browsing files; then you want an S3-compatible solution. The S3 API makes it easier to plug it into your application, while allowing you to migrate to a different one - which I'm actually currently doing for a MinIO deployment at work.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 day ago

if you need a POSIX interface

SSHFS isn't POSIX compliant. It doesn't support hard links, file locking, atomic renames, full support for changing file permissions, umasks, and probably other things.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

S3 is designed for being used by applications via API, for example you can easily save and retrieve files from it even with a JavaScript application. It is much more difficult to do the same with sshfs

If instead you use it mounted on a computer, S3 is worse because each time you need to list its contents that's an API request, if you have hundreds of thousands of files then it's thousands of API reuqests

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Sshfs has way more overhead and doesn't do remotely the same thing

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 day ago

why would you need that?

So you can switch to S3 if needed? Using compatible solutions means you have choice. Choice is good.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Many cloud providers offer S3-compatible storage, so it's a common protocol to use in applications. There are even some databases like SlateDB that fully rely on object storage for everything. Supporting more API's is extra work (unless you're using OpenDAL) so most people pick S3 compatible API's because they're the most widely supported across all cloud platforms.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Kubernetes storage is the reason I was looking at Minio in the past.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com -3 points 1 day ago

Sadly I only recognized it as “the thing you put in your docker compose for integration tests”.