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Anarchism and Social Ecology

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Hierarchists oftentimes say that we need the machine to ensure that we are provided for. In this sense I like to think of the machine as a mother. The motherly machine nurtures us. Gives us hospitals, passports, car infrastructure, gives us internet, gives us supermarkets.

But she can’t nurture us without vessels which pumps force of life to her. The one raising and maintaining the vessels is the fatherly machine.

Our father is efficient, and does whatever he needs to do to accomplish this. He deathen forests to set up farms. He penetrates the ground for metals, he exploits labour to the degree that it is possible, fully if possible. He grabs around that which he can, from the very biggest, to the very smallest. He sucks up life from the ocean. And penetrates the crust of Gaja to vessel oil.

The issue here is that in fern for the machine to preserve itself, it needs people to look away from the fatherly machine, because then it can get away with more providing. This is easy for the machine, because all the machine has to do is to claim responsibility for being non-exploitative. It is moving responsibility away from people towards itself.

The lokening is therefore to take back responsibility.

By doing so, we remove the dependence upon the motherly machine, and therefore also the fatherly machine.

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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're personifying many complicated things of abstract concepts that mesh and interact with each other in various ways. An unstopped parasitic mold might be a better metaphor.

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

You’re personifying many complicated things of abstract concepts that mesh and interact with each other in various ways.

Thank you :)

An unstopped parasitic mold might be a better metaphor.

I assume you are thinking about the machine framing. Perhaps, but I can't decide whether I agree or disagree. On the other hand, I think the machine is a very good analogy for the structure of might. As something unfeeling, uncaring, mechanical, focused on efficiency rather than meaning.

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it is unclear, this is the kind of image I'm talking about when I say the motherly machine.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh the only thing I got from this text was sexism, not an image

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't see why you would think that. Is it because a mother and father are gendered? Then do you think the term "mother earth" is also sexist?

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the term "mother earth" is sexist or not is something that depends on the context. Well, imo.

The characteristics you project to motherhood and fatherhood are totally stereotypical.

To me it seems obvious you haven't spent any time on this topic and I assume that since you like writing, most probably you like reading? If that's the case, I invite you to use your favorite search engine and start researching this topic. I really hope you'll enjoy the findings!

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for elaborating.

If the term “mother earth” is sexist or not is something that depends on the context. Well, imo.

The only reason we say "mother Earth" is so that we can apply the symbolic meaning of motherhood upon Earth. Otherwise we might as well say "planet Earth" and cut the unwanted associations.

The characteristics you project to motherhood and fatherhood are totally stereotypical.

I'm simply using daoism and yinyang. Yin representing the feminine energy and yang representing the masculine energy. I'm using mother and father as images of forwarding the yin and yang upon the machine. By doing so, we get a wholistic insight into the nature of the machine, why the machine is attractive and how the machine is destructive.

So the question is then; Do you think that yinyang is sexist, or that I'm using yinyang in a sexist manner?

To me it seems obvious you haven’t spent any time on this topic and I assume that since you like writing, most probably you like reading? If that’s the case, I invite you to use your favorite search engine and start researching this topic. I really hope you’ll enjoy the findings!

If you want to challenge me on any statement or positions, go ahead. If you have any questions for me, I'll answer them. If you want me to look into an article and give you my impressions go ahead and share. But simply "do research", "ask AI" makes me depressed because I'm here to have conversations. If it is dumb or smart conversations. I believe that we find the right way when we talk with each other instead of outsourcing conversations to the machine.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You say you want a conversation with me but you don't even bother taking into account my suggestion which was actually very simple:

do a search of the word "sexism" and read at least something about it.

Instead, you chose to write this comment. Your approach doesn't make me want to give you any more of my time at this point. So bye bye for now

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago

Neither of us are getting anything out of this, so let's shake hand on that at least.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The machine eats her young. Get bent, OP.

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you insinuating that I like the machine? wtf man

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's sure how your post read to me.

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago

Could you elaborate?