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Ignoring the massive cost, legal hurdles, and the opinion of the residents/government/outside powers, if you could magically grant independence to certain territories or form new bigger nations from existing ones with no repercussions to yourself, what new countries would you create?

Please treat this as a non-serious post, let's not get into a massive political debate, those never end well.

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[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Take Georgia the country and Georgia the state and merge them, no more confusion.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Delete all states and borders

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

Whoa there Captain Torres.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

Lots of fun stupid ideas here...

  • Everyone in the world is now their own microstate with their current position as the start point for a voronoi style distribution of territory.
  • Canada and Canadia are now legally distinct, coterritorial nations. Anyone who refers to themselves as Canadian has the effect of renouncing their citizenship to Canada and joining Canadia. Anyone who refers to themselves as Canadan does the opposite.
  • The world is now divided into nations by elevation rather than latitude and longitude.
  • All locations are redistributed by their affixes. All -stans are one nation. All -villes are another. All -tons and -towns another. All San- and Santa- are another. And so on, and so on. Any conflicts based on having multiple affixes are decided by a fight to the death between randomly chosen locals who prefer one or the other.
  • All areas are formed into nations based on the most common seasoning in that region.
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'd break them all up into a grid of like...100 miles, squared. Those are the new country boundaries, the rest is up to the people within the boundaries to decide. There are now a shitload of countries. Good luck, everybody.

[–] RyanUrq1328@programming.dev 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Free Ireland!

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I hope to see this in my lifetime

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One world under my benevolent iron fist, ruled from my volcano base.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

Doctor Evil, actually.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is site is gonna be western-centric so I'd not even bother with those countries:

So my answer is:

Hong Kong, Vietnam, Guangdong Province become one nation

Republic of Yue (粵共和國)

Historically we came from a common group of people... so... this make sense lol

A lot of Vietnamese words are similar to Cantonese.

So we just make this a dual-language nation of Cantonese + Vietnamese (plus we'd give protected status for minority languages/"dialects" and allow schools in their regions to use 50% of the time to use their language/"dialect" only, the other 50% they have to pick either Cantonese or Vietnamese as the main language, and also the other one become their sort of like "minor" language studies in college terms... so this de facto means the Northern part of this nation use Cantonese, Southern part use Vietnamese as the main one...

So someone running for president of the Republic of Yue is legally required to pass fluency test in both national languages to make sure people are united...

Oh fun fact: the 粵 Chinese character (as in 粵語/Cantonese) representing Guangzhou and Cantonese related words, and the 越 Chinese character in 越南 (Vietnam) are pronounced the exact same in both Cantonese and Mandarin.

Anyways... I'm gonna tag my favorite HKer on Lemmy @NorthWestWind@lemmy.world

Hope you'd enjoy living in our Republic of Yue fantasy where Cantonese is a national language for once (can you imagine if Cantonese won the debate to become China's official language? 🥹)

/non-serious of course... but this would be a very funny country... imagine Cantopop with Vietnamese sprinkled inside? lolol

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How about the concept of a nation itself ceases to exist? How about free movement of people, very weak states, consumer cooperatives as the only capital controlling entities who are allowed to buy labor only from worker coops? Economic democracy, competition, choice and so on?

How about a world without kings and non consented rulers, a world where we stop wanting to conquer each other, and instead focus on conquering the limits set on us by nature? How about a world where we build a Dyson swarm, solve interplanetary, interstellar, and dare I say intergalactic travel?

Aight imma go cry myself to sleep now

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (14 children)

If there are no nation-states, how do we determine what amount of force is justified for self defense? Who enforces violations of that rule and what are the available punishments? What is our recourse when said enforcers decide to ignore any violence against people who deleted their reddit accounts?

Anarchy is a great ideal, but there are some things governments do that we shouldn't trust to self-organizing collectives. Unless "union of transphobic gang rapists pedophiles" is something you want to defend.

(Bit snarky, but honestly curious as to your answer.)

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[–] PmMeFrogMemes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

California breaks off to hang out with Hawaii. Alaska can come too.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I get that reference

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 13 points 2 days ago

Cascadia! We’ve even got our own separatist journal here in the fediverse, the Cascadia Journal.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Scandinavia. Not sure if Finland geographically counts as part of Scandinavia, but they can join too if the want to. Same goes for Iceland and Faroe Island.

Just need to figure out a mechanism that prevents the Danes and Swedes from steamrolling the politics this time around.

[–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All the lines drawn by Europe's Colonial period are erased in Africa and Mid east and new lines are drawn by ethnic groups or otherwise defined by those groups. After which those new nations create a block of African Union like the European Union works.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For sure split up the USA.

Maybe then they'll be too occupied to meddle with other nations

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

whispers

Free Cascadia

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every country of more than 100 million people must split in half .

And repeat.

[–] lyktstolpe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Half of each citizen in the new countries or half of the citizens in each new country?

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Every country is broken down one step. Individual states or provinces are now their own country. If still too large, break into counties or the like.

Whack it with a hammer! Break them up!

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[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The territory of Kaliningrad belongs to Lithuania. It's not like there isn't enough space in Russia, give me a break.

[–] Az_1@piefed.social 1 points 21 hours ago

Really bad idea to have a big Russian minority in Lithuania, which is what adding Kaliningrad would do, that could cause some instability issues.

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[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

One global nation with no borders.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kurdistan. They have been broken up, and are a nation spread over a number of countries that all hate them: Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

The only right answer:

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Ever been to Greece? 'Cause we're going back to city states, baby!

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

United States' west coast and Alaska's panhandle are now Canadian. There is now only one Korea. United States of Europe exists now. Russia is broken up into many separate states regarding the population that lives there. A new state is created somewhere inside China on the border that as now... Uyghurstan I guess.

*How ccould I forget about Ireland?! D: Ireland is now just Ireland.

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would give the west side of Amarillo, Texas to the cows where they could run as their own sovereign nation.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

They already do, they just didn't tell you.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Israel can go to mars

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] amorangi@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They Northern states would have been better off in the long run if they'd have just left the retard states break away in the civil war.

[–] Katrisia@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I was going to answer that Mexico as it once was, from current US southern states to Panama. Then, the northern US states, Canada, and Alaska could be their own tranquil cold lands.

Maybe even a division by old territories and languages so that Bolivar's dream came true. From old Mexico (New Spain) to Cape Horn (or whatever the southernmost point lies). I cannot say that country would have been better than the USA (in terms of atrocities, wars, etc.), but I'm still curious.

Also, Brazil not imposing Portuguese to their citizens. They used to speak a criolle language, if I remember correctly. If a kind Brazilian reads this, maybe they can correct and explain it.

[–] Militias@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I want the Baltic Sea surrounded in a similar fasion as to how The Roman Empire once enveloped the Mediterranean Sea!

i.e. A United Nordics + Balticum + Poland + Germany (maybe just the parts of Poland and Germany that are near the sea though?)

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