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Are we doing crimes when scrapping data online? For example public available music? (jeferson.me)

submitted 15 hours ago by Shin@piefed.social to c/programming@programming.dev

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I'm trying to get to a reason on this, but my point reach to a limit.

I've the feels that scraping the internet for public accessible data, like for example open and public music on Spotify wouldn't be a crime, but the distribution would be. At the same token, this is seem as a crime, while Google does the same and nothing happens, even worse, if this get regulated, Google would have a huge advantage on anyone else.

So, my deeper question is: "Is copyright dead?"

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's illegal but all AI companies do it more than you'll ever do. You have my permission.

I still buy on Bandcamp because they deserve it.

[–] esc@piefed.social 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I can't care less about copyright and 'crimes' of copying.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world -4 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I guess you never created an original of anything? Maybe I read that wrong..

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've written more than one piece of software, and plenty of wordpress themes. I always release them without a license, for anyone to use however they want. copyright is capitalist nonsense and only exists to gatekeep creative freedom and stifle innovation.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I hate capitalism and the way it devalues people, reducing them to consumers. The fact remains we live in it, and have to eat. If you release everything to AI crawlers, what do you eat, assuming you don't lay tiles for a living, which would make you "rich" but very busy..

[–] Shin@piefed.social 5 points 12 hours ago

With the slow-death of copyright, what else is left? And if not dead, how can we reclaim it? I've so many questions, and I can't focus on a single thing :(

[–] esc@piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago

I did, obtaining a monopoly on it would go counter my beliefs. Anyway originality is overrated and very hard to measure. Especially now.

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 11 hours ago

no, in almost all cases internet piracy is not a crime. it is a civil issue. now if you were scraping information that wasn't public, that could be a crime depending on the circumstances.

[–] misk@piefed.social 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Not only copyright is dead but so is licensing of things in general. This means there’ll be less original work from both commercial and non-commercial projects. Commercially there won’t be ways to profit so why bother. On the libre licensing front why would you contribute code to GPL licensed projects or release art under Creative Commons if it’s going to be license washed anyway?

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Google would have some kind of licence in place I suspect. But what about people with photographic memory?