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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 209 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, specifically: The billionaires class hired Trump to do this. They may have gotten more than they bargained for, or they may not care since it’s not yet affecting most of them.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some of them are actively working with Trump towards a future where prison labor in their factories fuels their wealth in perpetuity. It is as simple as incarceration of millions of slave laborers and becoming a government contractor.

Footage of private prison executives celebrating the Trump reelection leaked when it happened. Some immigration camps are already creating labor.

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[–] LuckyDevil@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, of course it's both, but I think people are upset with the statement because Democrats (with a few exceptions) traditionally bend over backwards trying to ignore the fact that the billionaire class is a HUGE part of the problem.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Somehow this is the most ignored fact ever known, for internet people. No, you just simply cannot acknowledge two compatible facts. One is worthless garbage (your fact) while the other is profound wisdom (my fact). For example, here, somehow Donald Trump being a billionaire with the largest amount of power on earth is lost on this person, basically because it helps them burn the Democrats. Really kind of an idiotic response if you ask me. A billionaire acting the most like a billionaire is the "wrong" culprit here. And they think they're such a big brain for this.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

One of those things is just a subset of a much larger group, but both are only products of a systemic failure that democrats refuse to acknowledge - which makes them seem inauthentic to most people experiencing the problem.

Libs will pretend that this is not a problem.

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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not "billionaire class". It's owning class.

It ain't that they have a lot of money, it's how they came to acquire that money as an effect of the system of ownership we currently live under incentivising rampant exploitative practices as the most efficient methods of personal enrichment.

Billionaires are just the best at being exploitative; they aren't the only ones though.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most billionaires get their money by exploiting loopholes in the government. For example, they pay no taxes, yet the government will still prosecute people who kill them.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

yet the government will still prosecute people who kill them.

They actually spend money to keep anyone from even trying.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

The owning class are the ones who control and dictate our government structure. Of course they are going to create avenues for advancement of their interests. The system was built by them, for them.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!

Upton Sinclair, 1934

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck. It can literally be both, especially with this fatted calf.

Also in terms of affordability of daily good and gas, it literally, majority because of Trump, the billionaire grifter, and his tariffs and his stupid thinking he's Jesus and started a War with Iran and the Republicans refusing to rein him in and the Democrats voting with them.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago (31 children)

What neo-liberals and their apologizing masses don't understand is we don't see a difference anymore. They're both conservative parties that only care about their payout ultimately. Advancing billionaire objectives and ignoring us. I really wish they'd understand and stop trying to fucking argue against this.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At LEAST blame Republicans, not Trump.

That Democrats waste time pointing the finger at Trump means Republicans get to reset after this like they aren't fully fucking complicit and responsible for promoting Trump to power. And yes, those pro-Israel Dem representatives deserve a portion of blame as well.

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[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Both parties are the billionaire class 🤣

There is no truly left party with any type of power in the US.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

trump is the champion of the billionaire class.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Dems know exactly how they could get a massive landslide in the midterms, and are choosing not to do it.

[–] dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If they win by too much they woukd lose all their excuse to work against the people.

It would ruin them.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 7 points 1 month ago (25 children)

That's cause they're trying to lose on purpose. Their corporate donors told them to.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of this:

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What we need is people who actually write up policy proposals. It doesn't matter whether you have a senate majority, you need to write the policy proposals now. What actually changes things is societal pressure, and you only build that up by showing that another way is possible, which you show by writing down how exactly you would run an alternative society. For which you have to write down policy proposals.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The fact that Democrats don’t have a Project 2027 or Project 2029 runbook proves they don’t know what they’re doing.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The fact that Democrats don’t have a Project 2027 or Project 2028 runbook proves that they're not even trying.

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 20 points 1 month ago (43 children)

It's because Republicans and neoliberal democrats (the majority of them) take their marching orders from the billionaire class.

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Learned", lol, yeah that's what the problem is. They're just so stupid. So unbelievably stupid. These people with billions of dollars of think tank research and social data, these people who climbed into power, they just aren't realizing this obvious fact that somehow every non-politician around me has understood since they were 15 years old. They haven't "learned".

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Hell yeah. Fuck their weaponized ignorance. Pretending they don't know just absolves them of guilt.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I mean, they're also right that Trump is making it worse. Hes making it acutely terrible in fact.

If it were some competent neolib at the helm instead of a retarded fascist we'd only be slightly miserable instead of suicidally miserable.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This was a joke, right? Good one

Yeah, it's Trump, everything will be fine when he dies!

Trump could never have been elected without you hacks, your corruption made him possible. He could never be in any position of authority without decades of unbridled rot to pave the way... if he's the monster, you're the Dr. Frankenstein who created him.

Good job

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Donald Trump is literally everything wrong with The United States of America distilled down to a person and squeezed into an ill fitting suit. All the self obsession, anti-intelectualism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, paedophilia, war mongering, greed, hate, and cruelty rolled into the ugliest person you'll ever know. Did I miss anything?

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Those aren't exclusionary statements

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never argue with someone whose job depends on not being convinced.

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[–] m750@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Every time.

Neo libs are similarly to blame, not as bad as gqp, but not fixing it either...

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

TBF, Trump is glazing the billionaire class about as much as he's glazing Putin and Netanyahu.

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[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

It's the same picture

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago

Oh, they know.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

America is Unaffordable because of DONALD TRUMP!

-People who Voted in FAVOR of Donald Trump's Policies!

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[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They're billionaires because of monetary policy, Elon Musk and Tesla wouldnt be worth so much if inflation didnt reward risky assets and provide an unlimited runway to profitability. We bid up asset prices until prices rise 2% a year; prices that exclude assets like housing, subjective hedonic downward adjustments of goods prices, and substitutions/shrinkflation.

Blame the rich if you want, I blame the unelected central bank thats debasing your paycheck with 7% annual money supply growth, QE, and bailouts. If the money supply didnt grow every year you wouldnt need to beg your boss for a cost of living adjustment that doesnt match reality. Our parents ate free range grass fed meat, we eat corn fed factory farm troglodytes, and our children will eat highly processed imitation meat slop, and the CPI will mark no difference between the three.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tesla would be worth basically nothing if the federal government weren't artificially propping them up by banning Chinese EVs.

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For anyone unfamiliar with Nina Turner, she has run for Congress before and the Democrats united against her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Turner#2021_Ohio's_11th_congressional_district_special_election

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[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The same old history. Some people infiltrate and manipulate the lefties to not vote, until they will lose their power of voting forever.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's both? He does claim to be a billionaire.

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