EHhhh, I love O'Brien, but lately I think Trek has been relying way too much on nostalgia. I'd rather have new characters instead.
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I see this argument a lot, but outside of PIC S3 and the NuTrek reboots (I would still argue those were not relying on nostalgia but I understand the argument in favor) which post-Enterprise Star Trek "relies" on nostalgia?
The most frequent criticisms I've seen of Discovery and Picard S1&2 are that they weren't similar enough to previous Star Treks. Lower Decks references the older shows a lot but is obviously not trying to imitate them. SNW is the closest I think you could get to a "relying on nostalgia" series and it is more frequently described as feeling "fresh" and seems to be the most well-received.
Same. Although it's kind of a tradition to have the old actors on, and it can be fun, but it's better when used to contrast how the new Treck is different / evolving
This right here. I liked how TNG did it. Series premier bring an oldster in to launch, maybe have a special episode or two with another.
If we really wanted Colm back, have it in the premier of Starfleet Academy where the new cadets are going through a hall of distinguished professors and have an elderly O'Brien do a cameo with a sample of one of his lectures. Nice to connect the show to lore and nostalgia but short enough to let the new cast stand on their own.
That said, I agree with Colm. Let O'Brien stay as he is. He had a perfect send-off.
Rather than a Starfleet lecturer I'd prefer if he was the author of a "Things they don't teach you at the Academy" type book.
Something like "Per Starfleet regulations dilithium crystals should be set to a quarter inch technobabble. However in a pinch you can technobabble but be warned this can cause more babbling"
Meaney had always struck me as the ultimate working actor, fairly ambivalent about Star Trek beyond it being a job (which is fine).
It's hard to imagine him turning down an offer, were it too come in.
Yeah, I've read similar that it was "just a job" from his view, but you're right: if he's offered a role and is available, he'd probably take it.
Even if he just pops up for a cameo as an Emergency Engineering Hologram or something. Maybe in Academy they find a 900 year old pattern buffer floating in deep space, and O'Brien pops out like Scotty in Relics. I would not be picky about how they bring him in, I guess, is what I'm saying. lol
If anyone earned their retirement, it's Miles O'Brien. Maybe he could show up for one scene, where he lets the rest of the team know that, just like Wolverine did in First Class.
Lol, I'd accept that. Maybe he's the template for future engineering holograms.
Computer, activate the Emergency Engineering Hologram.
Holo'brien: Jaysus! Your warp core's knackered. Nothing I can do. Deactivate emergency engineering hologram.
(I don't think any incarnation of O'Brien would give up so easily; just playing off of your Wolverine clip lol)
I wondered why the hologram version of him is English. But of course it would be English, wouldn't it?
Computer, reactivate Emergency Engineering Hologram
Holo'brien: Fuck off! Computer, delete program, command override O'Brien six-six-gamma-seven.
I wouldn’t mind a special guest appearance of a retired Chief O’Brian building gadgets for kids in a distant colony.