The US has been the main villain ever since they inherited the role from the British. None of this is surprising if you've been paying attention.
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The 40k universe is clearly inspired by real-world politics. There are only bad guys, villains, and monsters. Nobody has the moral high ground in this mess.
I hate this comment.
Hey, we were happy dicking around in our own backyard for the first 150 years or so. We even attacked ourselves, we were so bored.
Then you people asked us to join WW1, and we got a taste of World Domination, and we loved it. So, y'know, you started it.
We're Frankenstein's Monster, and you let us loose.
/S, just kidding, America sucks, we know it. A lot of us want to do better, and we're hoping for a different future. We're at a crossroads, things are going to be very different in the future. I just hope it's our difference that prevails, and not MAGAs.
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The only one thinking the US are the good guys it's the US.
As of right now, you're no better... scratch that, you are actually worse than Putin.
Now that the United States is trying to do a Russian Ukraine upon Iran...
yyyyeah there is no moral highground anymore.
just an immoral crater filled with mud and viscera.
No state is moral. People are (or can be) moral.
honestly TRUUUUUUE!!
This is the case with pretty much all collective entities, they're all cut from the same cloth:
businesses, sports teams, fandoms, private clubs, political parties - they're all manifestations of tribal instinct and one of its """features""" (which, in this very synthetic habitat we've created for ourselves can become quite maladaptive if not toxic) is the displacement of personal accountability.
I'm saying, yes, groups are not moral but people can be moral - and I am hypothesizing THAT is why.
Parallel processing has enabled humans to do absolutely incredible things.
But it has also enabled humans to do truly heinous things too.
Bystander effect, "just following orders", toeing the party line, passing the buck, riding the bandwagon... I think it's not enough to teach people that only people themselves are capable of making moral judgments, but that we absolutely should also teach people that abstract gestalt entities that we become part of, that we allow to subsume us, are not.
Even the ones that aren't outright evil are only so by the individual decisions of the people it comprises--through either luck or mindfulness--steering it away from brutal shortcuts that spend others' lives for the sake of its own perpetuation.
It's kind of ironic though that the people who decry "groupthink" the loudest are the ones that seem to be doing it the most. I'd sure like to think that we'll learn to do a better job of identifying that blindspot (which such distributed collective entities exploit to enhance their own survival odds) and countering it, then teaching the next generations to look for it and counter it too.
... if we'll even be around to see any generations that may exist after us.
Oh I don't know. I think the Israelis are convinced they're the good guys.
The USA is bad but it's nowhere near russian level of bad. You are, however, moving in that direction at a rapid pace. It does help that American president sees russia as a role model.
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I don't claim that know who the good guys are, but the US and specifically the military are definitely the baddies.
I disagree with you only on one point; "and specifically the military".
Apologies for being blunt, but this is a coward's logic. I'm not seeing that to attack you personally, but because far, far too many of us are guilty of this specific act of moral cowardice, and it needs to be called out now often.
A military acts on the will of a government. A government rules by the consent of the people (yes, even authoritarian governments; democracy is just a system for assigning that consent peacefully, fairly, and with minimal bloodshed).
With vanishingly few exceptions throughout history, militaries are not rogue agents acting on their own devices. They are our will made manifest. A soldier is a bullet fired from a gun. We take aim and pull the trigger. A soldier can do their best to act ethically and responsibly, but ultimately war is a scenario where no good outcomes can ever occur. Only degrees of terrible.
A soldier chooses to accept the responsibility of living and enacting that terror on our behalf because ultimately someone has to. War is sometimes inevitable and necessary. We do not categorically refer to the soldiers fighting for Ukraine's defence as monsters even though most of them - especially those serving before the war, those whose bravery and skill ground the Russian invasion to a halt in those vital early hours - serve for the same panoply of reasons that any other soldier does. Many of those reasons are simple, or selfish, or thoughtless, but the reasons why they chose to shoulder that responsibility didn't change the outcome.
It's easy to blame the military, because it abrogates the collective shame of what war actually is; an extension of politics. I know plenty of soldiers who are some of the most anti-war people you'll ever meet, because they understand what war costs, in a way the average civilian never will.
When war kills people, when war results in atrocities, when war is a nightmare of death and carnage and suffering, that responsibility is collective. It belongs to a people, not just a military.
Trump's war in Iran is America's war in Iran. Just like Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam and Korea, and so many others.
America is NOT acting on the will of the people. It has been totally stolen from the citizens, and neither side is doing what the people want. MAGA approval rates are abysmal, but so are Democratic approval rates. NOBODY is happy about it.
Understand that we are a nation under siege. MAGA stole the 2024 election with election fraud, and the Dems let them off the hook, and now we're dealing with the consequences. The majority did not want this, and now even many of them are leaving.
There is a national seething happening, just under the surface, and barely in control. MAGA tries to deny the Midterm Bloodbath, it will break loose.
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America and Israel are the common enemies of humanity
Hegseth and trump playing with lethal toys like a sociopath torturing animals.
A non-hostile ship being targeted because “Just do it and see what happens. “
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I want to put this very recognizable meme on lawn signs (like the plastic political candidate ones) and hand them out and put them everywhere.
Mark my words, by the end of Trump's term the United States is going to have no allies left in the entire world.
Hell, we barely have any left as it is now.
comment Africa comment in articles in the WSJ saying the US has only "fair weather allies" and it's good they show how useless they are now so the US can discard them.
exactly 0 self awareness.
If it was unarmed they could have effortlessly captured it. Imo this is just going to crystallize US opposition.
I don't get why the article keeps saying the military frigate was "unarmed"?
It was on a training mission and was heading home. With no weapons on board. We are cowards.
This entire war is illegal, but articles like this just grind my gears.
Attacking a war ship on a training run is like destroying airplanes on the ground, or bombing infantry barracks where soldiers are sleeping. It isn't a war crime, or even out of the ordinary in a war.
And calling the sub crew cowards doesn't even make sense.
The frigate would have been just as helpless against the sub if it had been carrying its usual armament.
I guess I'm just allergic to dishonest propaganda, no matter from which side.
Also, fuck Trump, his administration, and every single US service member going along with this. I hope they get humiliated and are forced to pull out with their tails between their legs before they "accidentally" kill more school children, or deliberately destroy Iran's civilian infrastructure (an actual war crime).
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Unfortunately what is allowed in war is still pretty brutal. This was a warship and it would be a legitimate target from the moment the war started, without exception.
Let's focus on the actual war crimes, like the Pentagon redefining "military target" to include destroying energy, food, and fresh water infrastructure because soldiers need to drink water too... Hitting those targets would still be a war crime, the Pentagon is not the arbiter of what is and isn't a military target.
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While the war in Iran should not be happening remember that at Rimpac they were doing live fire excercises and not US and Iranian ships attended, this means that while tragic the ship was not unarmed. I keep seeing some factual errors repeated to try and make things sound worse than they are leading to easy dismissal of arguments due to factual errors and complete dismissal of the point.
But it was wicked cool, and we did that, so it's cool. - Hegseth
The US have never been 'the good guys'.
Who Are the Good Guys Again?
Nobody this time. Especially those holding absolute power.
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We are. Because we say so. Now the other guy, wooboy what a bad guy!
...Is there an implication of the broken legs I'm missing?
Wikipedia has a video of the blast. Imagine standing on deck when the torpedo exploded and you'll understand why there were broken legs.
Oh, I understand why, I was wondering if pointing it out was supposed to imply something else I wasn't getting.
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