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In the early hours of March 4, 2026, in international waters off the coast of Galle, Sri Lanka, the USS Charlotte, a Los Angeles–class nuclear-powered attack submarine, closed in on the IRIS Dena, a new Iranian Moudge-class frigate.

Submerged, the Charlotte fired a heavyweight, acoustic-homing torpedo at the hull of the Dena. It missed. It fired another. It connected. The periscope footage of the attack was released by the United States Department of War. It shows the shockwave of the torpedo fracturing the Dena’s hull and sending its helicopter flight deck metres into the air.

Within seconds, what was left of the Dena was plummeting to the depths of the Indian Ocean, carrying at least sixty of its crew of 180 to their deaths.

Some moments later, an email was sent from US Indo-Pacific Command to Sri Lanka’s maritime rescue agency. Twenty miles from Galle’s coast, a ship is in distress. Sri Lanka immediately engaged a search and rescue effort that included its air force and navy. The surface of the sea contained clues that a vessel had been attacked and had likely been sunk. But it was not clear whether the attack had come from above or below. They were able to rescue thirty-two sailors, and recover the bodies of eighty-seven others, many of whom had mysteriously broken legs.

The Charlotte had long vanished like an apparition beneath the waves.

This was on the fifth day of the US–Israeli war on Iran, 2,000 nautical miles from the immediate conflict zone.

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[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 79 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The US has been the main villain ever since they inherited the role from the British. None of this is surprising if you've been paying attention.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The 40k universe is clearly inspired by real-world politics. There are only bad guys, villains, and monsters. Nobody has the moral high ground in this mess.

[–] Draegur@piefed.social 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"There is no such thing as innocence; only degrees of guilt."

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey, we were happy dicking around in our own backyard for the first 150 years or so. We even attacked ourselves, we were so bored.

Then you people asked us to join WW1, and we got a taste of World Domination, and we loved it. So, y'know, you started it.

We're Frankenstein's Monster, and you let us loose.

/S, just kidding, America sucks, we know it. A lot of us want to do better, and we're hoping for a different future. We're at a crossroads, things are going to be very different in the future. I just hope it's our difference that prevails, and not MAGAs.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

America and Israel are the common enemies of humanity

[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

China and North Korea too while at it, please?

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Iran goes on that list as well.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Absolutely, and probably a few more countries still

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 53 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The only one thinking the US are the good guys it's the US.

As of right now, you're no better... scratch that, you are actually worse than Putin.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago

Oh I don't know. I think the Israelis are convinced they're the good guys.

[–] Draegur@piefed.social 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now that the United States is trying to do a Russian Ukraine upon Iran...

yyyyeah there is no moral highground anymore.

just an immoral crater filled with mud and viscera.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No state is moral. People are (or can be) moral.

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[–] Mika@piefed.ca 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The USA is bad but it's nowhere near russian level of bad. You are, however, moving in that direction at a rapid pace. It does help that American president sees russia as a role model.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hegseth and trump playing with lethal toys like a sociopath torturing animals.

A non-hostile ship being targeted because “Just do it and see what happens. “

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I don't claim that know who the good guys are, but the US and specifically the military are definitely the baddies.

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[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I want to put this very recognizable meme on lawn signs (like the plastic political candidate ones) and hand them out and put them everywhere.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Mark my words, by the end of Trump's term the United States is going to have no allies left in the entire world.

Hell, we barely have any left as it is now.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

If it was unarmed they could have effortlessly captured it. Imo this is just going to crystallize US opposition.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately what is allowed in war is still pretty brutal. This was a warship and it would be a legitimate target from the moment the war started, without exception.

Let's focus on the actual war crimes, like the Pentagon redefining "military target" to include destroying energy, food, and fresh water infrastructure because soldiers need to drink water too... Hitting those targets would still be a war crime, the Pentagon is not the arbiter of what is and isn't a military target.

[–] core@leminal.space 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This was a ship that was participating in war games with other nations and had no armaments on it. So the US fired on and sank an unarmed ship.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, that is technically true. It is also completely legal. For reference it is also legal to shoot an enemy soldier in the back as they run away. It is legal to shoot an enemy soldier in any case except where they are clearly trying to surrender, including if they are just laying there unconscious.

The rules of war allow for far more than people realize. And Again, I'm not trying to let them off the hook. There's real questions about this entire thing being a war crime and about their targeting of bombs.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing is, the side that perpetrated this action is still denying that this is an actual war. In such a case, is this a legitimate target?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

They aren't the arbiter of what is and isn't a war.

[–] Pman@lemmy.org 8 points 4 days ago

While the war in Iran should not be happening remember that at Rimpac they were doing live fire excercises and not US and Iranian ships attended, this means that while tragic the ship was not unarmed. I keep seeing some factual errors repeated to try and make things sound worse than they are leading to easy dismissal of arguments due to factual errors and complete dismissal of the point.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

oPeN tHE sTraIt

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

US are not the good guys since WWII.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Since ever.

America was leaning towards the Nazis before Pearl Harbor.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

America was sharply divided between socialism and fascism in the run up to the collapse of the Russian Empire and emergence of the Soviet Union. Consequently, American leftists saw a ray of sunlight in the path Lenin took to revolutionizing the Russian socio-economic system. At the same time, American corporationists saw the USSR as an opportunity to describe American Leftism as a Foreign Invasion.

The adoption of European political theories and figureheads on the left triggered the hysterical anti-immigration reflexes on the right, polarizing and galvanizing the general public which had already grown deeply anti-European in the wake of the First World War.

This culminated in the Palmer Raids of 1919, split the union movement going into the Roaring Twenties, and - in a hat trick of reactionary revisionism - managed to unify Dixiecrat bigots, big money Industrialists, and evangelical Christians (both Protestant AND Catholic) into a single suffocating mono-party that would dominate American politics for the next twelve years.

The Neo-Confederates, the Industrial Fascists, and the Evangelical Paleo-conservatives congealed into the Coolidge/Hoover Republican Party and managed to govern virtually uncontested until the Great Depression upended their coalition.

But at this point, leftist organizing and activism had rebuilt and reorganized around generally palpable national socialist principles. And over the subsequent decade leading to Pearl Harbor, established a left-leaning national government coalition that was broadly sympathetic to the Russian and Chinese Communists to the point that we were openly aiding them in their wars against Germany and Japan.

Pearl Harbor was an attempt by the Japanese military to cut the US out of the Pacific Rim, precisely because we'd undermined their access to Middle Eastern petrochemicals and smuggled arms to the KMT/Communist coalition on mainland China. It was "unprovoked" in a very technical sense, but far from unanticipated given our open aiding and abetting of anti-Japanese forces all across the East Pacific.

America was leaning Communist by 1944. If FDR hadn't plotzed and handed the keys of the country to a reactionary like Truman, we might have avoided the Cold War entirely. Or, at least, forestalled it for a few more years.

[–] mech@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't get why the article keeps saying the military frigate was "unarmed"?

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It was on a training mission and was heading home. With no weapons on board. We are cowards.

[–] mech@feddit.org 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

This entire war is illegal, but articles like this just grind my gears.

Attacking a war ship on a training run is like destroying airplanes on the ground, or bombing infantry barracks where soldiers are sleeping. It isn't a war crime, or even out of the ordinary in a war.
And calling the sub crew cowards doesn't even make sense.
The frigate would have been just as helpless against the sub if it had been carrying its usual armament.

I guess I'm just allergic to dishonest propaganda, no matter from which side.
Also, fuck Trump, his administration, and every single US service member going along with this. I hope they get humiliated and are forced to pull out with their tails between their legs before they "accidentally" kill more school children, or deliberately destroy Iran's civilian infrastructure (an actual war crime).

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Who Are the Good Guys Again?

Nobody this time. Especially those holding absolute power.

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[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

The US have never been 'the good guys'.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

But it was wicked cool, and we did that, so it's cool. - Hegseth

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