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[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't know what it is you're trying to show. Is it that this drink is 500ml while all the others are 20 in whatever medieval unit is in use? I'm confused because the bepis says it's 16.9 floz, but if I type that into a converter it's not 500ml, and the other drinks are in oz, not in floz. I don't know if they're different. Is that the problem? One's by weight and one by volume? 500ml is standard for a large can in 90% of the world, fwiw.

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Dude bought a Diet Pepsi that was advertised as 20 oz but the bottle that came out only had 16.9 oz. (Or at least that’s what’s implied by the picture, who knows if that bottle actually came out of the machine…)

Dunno what’s so confusing tho

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 8 hours ago

Shrinkflation babyyyyyy

They did this to one of my favorite brands of ramen recently. The squares are noticeably smaller before you even open the package. I picked it up off the store shelf and something I've held in my hands dozens of times before felt noticeably lighter and tinier. Three would probably make one decent serving lol

They're not even from here. They're made in poland I think. The shrinkflation is inescapable...

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 7 points 17 hours ago

That's called "mislabeling"... or 'bait and switch'.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

TIL that an American pint (500ml) is smaller than a British pint (568ml).

[–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

476 mL, or 16 oz

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

TIL Brits have bigger pints, not just small baby sized shots! Does it balance out?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it comes up in Canada where restaurants will say "Pint*" to short change us.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except you can report that and they'll get punished

https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/measurement-canada/en/file-complaint

Pints of draft beer Consider the following:

A pint contains 20 fluid ounces (568 millilitres) in Canada.

  • The limit of error for 20 fluid ounces is 0.5 fluid ounces (15 millilitres).
  • The foam (head) is not included in the measurement.

What you need before you start

In order to process your complaint, we will require:

  • your name and contact information
  • the name and address of the establishment
  • information on how you have attempted to resolve the matter
  • a photo of the menu or advertisement showing the quantity claimed to have been dispensed, if possible
  • the sales receipt, if you have it
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

That's why they put as asterisk on it. Then somewhere they say it's not a real pint.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (13 children)

The American pint is actually only 473ml! That's a half litre bottle.

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[–] Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world 188 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Did no one notice I bought 20 oz not 16.9 oz bottle I got ripped off

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I saw that immediately, that's so illegal. You should record it and report it to the appropriate 3-letter agency (no idea which one). Doubt you'll get the money back, but making the assholes that run that machine deal with the government would be worth it to me.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Bro thinks CIA gonna be bustin' down Pepsis door

The three letter agencies are the spooks the MIB's the guy's who disappeared Epstein.

You are looking for something more boring like the Health department or department of agriculture.

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Naw mate, I just noticed you clicked on that shit when you could have been enjoying a Dr. Pepper. Wtf?

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago
[–] Thorry@feddit.org 65 points 1 day ago

Yeah but the machine is in ounces, where the can is in Florida ounces. Once you convert it's perfectly fine.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its like when you buy a 1tb drive and the real capacity shows up as like 920Gb lol

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There are (mainly) 3 reasons for that:

  • TB vs TiB: Computers don't count drive space in metric units, they count it in powers of 2. This means that, for you, 1 TB is 1000 GB, while for a computer, 1 TiB is 1024 GiB. Drive manufactirers take advantage of this, and only count space in metric (TB). So when you plug the drive into your computer, and it converts to GiB, you end up with 1 TB = 931.3 GiB. Windows hasn't helped this confusion, I remember it doing something weird like counting in GiB and displaying it as GB.

  • Reserved space: Many OSes reserve some space on their drives for special stuff. This is especially the case with Linux and ext4, where it by default reserves a percentage of the drive to root. This is to optimize distribution of files around the disk, which limits fragmentation. The system slowly frees more of this space as you fill up the disk, and at the end it should leave you with 100% of the space.

  • Formatting: Empty drive space isn't the same as usable drive space. In order to use a drive you need to format it, which doesn't just blank it. Formatting a drive adds a filesystem to it, which is what allows you to write files and folders to it. This filesystem takes up some space, and reserves more space for inodes and, in some cases, a filesystem journal. Some filesystems have even more features that also take up some space.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

GB to measure binary gigabytes came first. GiB was invented because advertisers and drive manufacturers are evil.

Edit: and judges are technologically illiterate.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

GiB weren't invented by drive manufacturers (although they definitely benefit from it, and are incredibly scummy about it). It was invented by the SI people. GiB make sense, because the prefix "Giga" means 10⁶, while in binary it meant 2²⁰. It was a mess before, and GiB just standardized it in a way that is easy to understand and consistent with other units.

I do think we should force drive manufacturers to express their drive capacity in binary format, tho.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Right, in response to drive manufacturers using GB incorrectly.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with metric. There was just a tradition to use the SI prefixes in binary and with k/K it worked. With MB it doesn’t work that well anymore, which is why they came up with MiB at some point, but MB can still be interpreted binary like it always was. Software can often display both binary and decimal prefixes. There are also different standards how to handle these units for different kinds of storage.

1kB is clearly 1000B and 1KB is clearly 1024B

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All software has always interpreted it in binary as far as I know. There never was a good standard, and the most common way to differentiate in my experience was using KB as metric (decimal, SI) and K as binary. It's easy to confuse with the already convoluted standard of KB being a kilobyte and Kb being a kilobit.

The reason for the added "i" is that in every other system, kilo means 1000. Someone at the SI realized that it didn't make any sense to have it mean something different in software so they invented the Ki prefix (instead of K) to mean 1024. That is now the standard, and it's part of the SI (coloquially metric). As a consequence of this, you can technically use the Ki prefix with any other SI unit, so you can also use the KiM (kibimeter), which is 1024 meters. Idk why you'd use it, but it's funny that the option exists.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

using KB as metric (decimal, SI) and K as binary.

Kilo has to be lower case, so it should be kB for decimal kilobyte. All SI prefixes are case sensitive. Kilo, hecto and deca are weird outliers since they are all written lower case, otherwise SI uses uppercase for prefixes larger than factor one and lower case for those smaller. I know people often don’t pay that much attention to that for bytes since there is nothing smaller than a bit.

There is a huge difference between 5mm and 5Mm. 5Mm = 5000000000mm

With other prefixes it gets even more extreme:

  • 5Zm = 5000000000000000000000000000000000000000000zm (5×10^42^qm)
  • 5Qm = 5000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000qm (5×10^60^qm)
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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I thought the same, but they still make the 20 Oz bottles. Looks like the vending machine company is either cheating people or forgot to update the placards - https://www.target.com/p/pepsi-cola-soda-20-fl-oz-bottle/-/A-12979694

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Damn, that is why I can't get my hand into the pringles tube. It is smaller in diameter.

Shrinkflation happened to this guy, also.

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[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How could this possibly even happen?

Has to be corporate greed.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

1/3 of all money has been printed since covid? Nice

[–] krisevol@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Printed in the nice way of saying borrowed. We borrowed that money, and we haven't paid it back yet

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

What if you borrow that from me and I borrow that back from you

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

oh I get it they didn't change out the stickers on the button. the vendor still probably an a hole

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[–] emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

A diet pepsi by the look of it

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