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[–] inari@piefed.zip 228 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For those who haven’t seen this excellent video:

https://youtu.be/T4Upf_B9RLQ

[–] grue@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not that "excellent." It's just 'for the evulz' mustache-twirling comical villainy, which ends up downplaying what's actually important to know about enshittification, which is how self-serving and abusive it is. When companies enshittify products and services, they're not just making them worse; they're specifically making them more exploitative.

A lot of the examples shown in the video -- cutting holes in socks, sawing off a chair leg so it wobbles, drying out a marker, etc. -- are not enshittification. Enshittification is stuff like putting spyware in devices so that you double-dip on the purchase price and the value of the data, or turning products (as opposed to services) into a subscription. Stuff that extracts unearned value from the customer.

It touches on it in the latter part of the video, but for the most part misses the mark.

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know, it was funny. Bit long in the tooth. The best thing about the video, it was actually produced by Norway. The government produced the video. That's pretty freaking cool.

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah it was a short PSA for average people, not power users. If it wasn’t funny a lot of people lose interest. It only spends the first 25% on the unrelated comedy bit. And the real point is to get people to the site at the end to learn more.

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[–] tramdan@piefed.social 183 points 1 week ago

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 147 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Great. So half my software won't work.

Google, just call it what it is. Ad blocking prevention.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

This is in no way a justification for what Google is doing, but they came to a "compromise" where you can still opt-in to being allowed to "sideload unverified apps" (read: install apps that didn't have to get approval from Google).

You have to enable it in the settings, and then you need to wait 24 hours before the setting is enabled. After that you can continue to run "unverified" apps

[–] wiccan2@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (8 children)

What I haven't seen is what happens to all of the apps I currently have installed when this hits.

Am I going to have to wait 24 hours to open apps I already have installed?

Will they all get auto-removed and need reinstalling?

Everything is written as if you're starting from new not an existing state.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (15 children)

What happens if I just stop updating android for as long as I can? Quite a few apps on my phone have retained functionality past when their developers attempted to brick them because I froze updates

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My Samsung S22 let me pause updates anymore. And it nags me to death.

My workaround is to start downloading the update and then pausing it.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

RIP, that's cancer. Yeah samsung has lost its fucking mind. I wish I had been considering the availability of 3rd party roms when I chose my model

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago

The "advanced flow" with a one-day wait is just Google realizing they need to boil this frog a little more slowly to prevent a backlash. They still want a fully boiled frog in the end.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago

it wont remain at that. i bet they will disable that setting occasionally and make you wait that 24h again and again.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Xiaomi bootloaders used to work like that. You'd have to jump through some bullshit hoops to register your phone for bootloader unlocking, and then wait a few days to finally be able to unlock it. Then they made that worse and worse, and afaik it's so insanely difficult and inconvenient right now that it's practically impossible to unlock your Xiaomi phone's bootloader. This applies to all the brands under that umbrella.

I am about 97.37% sure Google will do the same over time and at some point you just won't be able to install any APKs.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even google's "verified apps" are full of spyware, backdoors, and telemetry. They're so fucking hypocritical. Like an abuser who says "You can't make it in this world without me!"

Also, is this going to effect third-party ROMs like Lineage and its offshoots?

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

For now at least, google will likely remove that option in the future.

[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 128 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Ummm... Isn't this precisely against the whole EU's make sideloading (ie. installing) as easy as main app store installing thing?
Taking steps backwards...

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple shat all over those regulations with their implementation and got away with it so now Google are doing the same

[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Accountability is key in regulations. Without it, why should anyone follow them?

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I also blame the Epic lawsuits. How the fuck did they lose to Apple but win against Google, the platform where Fortnite was still fully playable and monetised?

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[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago (12 children)

And that's why I'm installing /e/OS in my Fairphone 6, and shifting to Linux based phones.

Even now Google is removing everything that is a choice to avoid their massive surveillance machine, apps started complaining about removal of UnifiedPush:

Fuck Google.

[–] RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 43 points 1 week ago

That's actually a known bug in Fennec, nothing to do with Google

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

FF6 with eOS is awesome! For the first time in a very long time, I feel like I actually own the device! Very liberating.

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[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome friend! I've been having a great time with e/os on my FP6.

I recommend the lawnchair launcher if you don't like the stock one.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Don't forget their ongoing war on ad blocking. I'll miss NewPipe so much.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Do ~~no~~ evil.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (6 children)

How is it even legal for a company to decide what you can or can't install in your own device?

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

The US supports monopolies as long as they have a backdoor. It was the same with Microsoft in the 90s.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because anti-trust has not been enforced this century, with the exception of Lina Khan's work as the FCC director.

Companies have been pushing the boundaries further and further for decades, with almost no push back.

Legal is just whoever has the most resources.

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For the same reason they can make you click agree to terms before you can do anything with the device.

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[–] Skv@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ugghhhh, its THEIR OS you're using. Perfect example is Nintendo.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do we stand any chance? And how fucking dare these fucking outlets continue to normalize this shit.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

We need development of Linux OSs for phones to ramp up. And we need Linux distributors and backers to fight back against "age verification" laws that are actually ID verification laws. There's a global attack underway on multiple fronts against free software, private computing, and user ownership and control of devices.

In the meantime, for a stopgap, there's GrapheneOS, but that doesn't fix the problem of developers having to choose between Google's way or unpaid obscurity.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

PostmarketOS was already mentioned.
There's another Linux OS for phones I'm aware of: https://sailfishos.org/

[–] ZombieChicken@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PostmarketOS is a thing. A lot of the software is already available for Linux. People just keep pretending it doesn't exist and keep spouting the same tired anti-Linux rhetoric ad nauseum.

Heck, I bet you could make a phone call from a bloody Pi Zero with a 4g & UPS HAT.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's a bit unfair. Postmarket is super cool and I can't wait to get a Linux phone. But let's not pretend it's ready to be daily driven. Even on the best supported phones there are still hardware driver compatibility issues. And that's not even speaking about the software catalog. Even in the privacy community, a lot of people regard banking apps as mandatory. Good luck ever getting those to run there.

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago
[–] mulcahey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The weirdest part to me: this comes after the EU determined that Apple's locked store is too restrictive, and Apple agreed to allow 3rd party stores. Why the hell would Android go in the opposite direction? Will this put them in violation of the same EU regulation?

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Just bought a second hand pixel 6 to test Graphene. Let's see what Motorola does and how Linux phones do in the future.

[–] EV3W0Y797@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I've been saving all the .apk files for apps I find valuable, just in case this ends up impacting future GrapheneOS builds.

Worst case scenario, at least I'd be able to use a saved Pixel for the apps I want, without needing a Google account.

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[–] excral@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I have the new Jolla Phone preordered and I'm excited to see how it plays out. Maybe 2026 is the year of the Linux Phone

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[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Motorola is making a graphene OS phone soon.

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[–] Logical@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I really wish I wasn't so dependent on certain financial apps. How much happier I would be to just give Google the finger and switch to Lineage, Graphene, or something like that. Unfortunately, a lot of must-have apps for me to even be able to live in my country, practically speaking, are incompatible with anything other than official iOS and Android.

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