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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 49 points 22 hours ago

If it worked it would be called "medicine"

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

My mom went from stage "0" DCIS to dying of stage 4 breast cancer in just 3 years while attempting to treat it with scam therapies.

When it was stage 2 she tried to treat it with localized vibration therapy, where her therapist used a massage gun on the area to try to resonate her body with the "healing frequency of the universe."

Given that the stage 2-3 jump is when cancer cells begin to dislodge from the first affected lymph node into the lymphatic system and spread throughout the body, I'm fairly certain her "treatment" significantly accelerated that jump.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m sorry to hear about your mother, friend.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

That does seem problematic. Even standard deep tissue massage is contraindicated in cancer patients.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 26 points 22 hours ago

Well yeah, quackery will do that. Calling it "alternative medicine" only promotes it and the scammers who sells it, there is no medicine about it.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 19 points 22 hours ago

Alternative medicine tied to lower ~~breast cancer~~ survival.

[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Alternative TO medicine tied to lower breast cancer survival

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It makes sense to distrust the American for-profit healthcare system where treatments that might work don’t get funded if they can’t be patented and monetized. Cancer is also a huge cash cow.

At the same time, taking unproven treatments is a risk. My father had stage 3 cancer and tried alternative treatments while getting periodic PET scans. When nothing decreased the tumor size, he finally got chemo and radiation. He’s still kicking almost 20 years later, but the radiation caused a lot of issues. He’s lucky it didn’t metastasize.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

taking unproven treatments is a risk

When talking about cancer, if anyone suggests a pyramid or breathing sunshine or just taking naturopath drops, those anyones should be thrown in jail for attempted murder, as far as I am concerned

It's always the floaty hippie dippie assholes that do this and they always get a pass because "oh well, it's alternative medicine!"

No

It's snake oil salesmen leaving trails of dead bodies behind them. Fuck everything about these horrible narcissists

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I worked alongside doctors for years, and I have plenty of stories about how Western medicine failed.

I also have plenty more stories about people who didn't listen to their doctors and ended up regretting it.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not every medical problem can be fixed. Sometimes life just deals you a bad hand.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Where did I say that all diseases were curable by Western doctors?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Doesn't "Western medicine failed" imply that you think alternative medicine would have succeeded? Apologies if I misinterpreted what you said. I didn't mean it as a challenge.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Not who you're talking to, but no, it doesn't imply that.

If Person A's strategy didn't work, that doesn't guarantee that Person B's strategy would've worked.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

I have a aunt like that (antivaxer too). That's fine if you have a cold, but for serious stuff, they endanger others and should be treated as such.

[–] dlsloop@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

I had a coworker that was heavily into this stuff. She got breast cancer and decided to go this route. If she isn't dead she most likely will be soon. The last I heard it wasn't pretty. She was in her early 30s.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I went to Alaska and purchased a tub of "devils salve". I kept getting these neck rashes that I would treat with diluted potassium hydroxide (because it was available in my photography darkroom). So I tried the devils slave thinking maybe, like salicilic acid, this too had some real undiscovered scientific value. So then it did! After a few weeks, the rash was gone and my skin was healing. This happened several times.

Sometime later it happened again and my usual diy secret treatment didn't fix it. LOL I even posted about it somewhere. As a last ditched effort I cave in and took an intihistamine. The rash was gone the next day.

Now, the devil's salve is probably containing useful substances but its " the process ". Like bearing grease doesn't do anything useful if you don't put it on a bearing. It can do bad things if applied elsewhere, like collecting dust or degrading plastics. Probiotics don't do anything if you don't put them in the gut. ETC. So basically I had an allergy and I wasn't aware. Going to diy medicine should definetly be last resort. My problem is my fear of the inevitable incurable disease that will one day make my insurance impossible to pay and steal everything I ever worked for. That's all.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

Whoa, I'm happy most health related insurances here don't work like that.