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On March 20th, 2026 MSI released a BIOS update for B650 Tomahawk Wi-Fi motherboard. One of the changes says "Implemented the anti-cheat mechanism."

I looked around their forums and people seem to agree that it refers to Microsoft Pluton security processor.

Does anybody know what this change is actually about? Is it another initiative by Microsoft to further lock people out of their computers? Would it somehow hinder using Linux with this motherboard?

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[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can someone explain to me why cheating shouldn't be solely caught and prevented on the servers these games run on? Why the hell are they diving into control on my own system?

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 4 points 19 hours ago

It's all about control. They demand control over servers, not allowing you to self host. They also demand control over communities, by putting them all in one big server or other controlled channels (but sometimes refusing to properly moderate them like in league of legends).

Now, they want to control your device.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 68 points 1 day ago (6 children)

https://www.riotgames.com/en/news/vanguard-security-update-motherboard

I am so deeply annoyed that

  1. Vanguard demands this level of control over user systems

  2. Vanguard seems to be the only entity handling a threat vector most people simply ignore. I suspect not even crowdstrike and the like could handle malicious pci devices. Well, vanguard can't either, it's just a cat and mouse game. But they are definitely trying in an area where most seem to have given up, but it's absurd that it's a fucking game anticheat that's doing this.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vanguard is proven spyware. If you installed that shit, I'd wipe the OS and reflash the BIOS.

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

And refund any games that require it on steam if you purchased any from there...

[–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a source of this information?

[–] leagman1@feddit.org 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, but it feels right and it sounds cool.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It is spyware by design, but whether it's being used maliciously is still in question.

It does send encrypted traffic to China, though, and while that alone isn't proof of nefarious behavior (could be anonymous metadata/logs for development purposes), it's extremely suspicious

[–] leagman1@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

I was just memeing bro.

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, people who don’t even know what motherboard they have will have to update their BIOS

They do it though. People all of a sudden are motivated and able to enable bitlocker and secure boot and update their bios when they need it to play le funni video game.

[–] bibbasa@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

we always knew video games would be the end of the world since gamergate

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When the arms race with cheaters has gotten there you should change strategies in fighting them.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sometimes I wonder if Vanguard is actually a government pet project for practice blocking and executing malicious pci devices.

You take one of those pci dma cheat cards, put a modem in them, and you've broken secure boot. And nation states have done such a thing to compromise laptops or other devices after getting physical access to them for a bit.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 day ago

This is why I dislike Tencent (parent of Riot Games)

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So glad I stopped playing league of legends over a decade ago. (And it wasn't even because of this, you could play it on a completely normal computer back then, I just ended up liking Dota more)

Yeah the QoL on dota is insane and for league it's non existent. Watch any replay, watch friends, sandbox for testing heroes. Idk to me league is unplayable for that.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Has very intrusive kernel level/bios level anticheat
still has cheaters.
mfw

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

tfw millions of dollars of anticheat development is defeated by one PCI-E-boi

and its THE anti cheat mechanism. Not just any but THE one.

[–] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is cheating in Valorant this profitable?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why would a game owned by China want full control of a PC?

Maybe cheating is the excuse because selfhosting and server mods just banning cheaters would work if they actually cared about cheating.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why would anyone want root kernel access to a PC?

Oh, uh, to be able to read anything on the entire PC, also be able to interdict and then modify literally any ongoing process or command.

... Palantir is very very hungry for data, after all.

And you can make money, if you sell it to them.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

In the video game 'black market', boosting/carry services and selling accounts is big business. You can hire minimum wage employees in whatever country has the cheapest labor costs, throw them in front of a PC with aimbot software and have them escort customers for US $30/hr.

[–] Thyazide@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago