Have you actually tried reading the rules of the community you want to post to? YDI
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
- Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
No offense, but they make sense to me.
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First two are political posts. Probably a bot enforcing Rule 6.
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3rd post is technically a blog post, not a news article, I guess.
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Third is borderline political?
The removed post justification should be more explicit, and removing a Servo dev post is ridiculous. But like it or not, it seems to fit the community’s rules.
The removed post justification should be more explicit
Yeah, the only crime here is that 'automod rule triggered' should be replaced with something that tells you which automod rule was triggered.
Rules against politics are always PTB because everything is political. Which political things stay up and which political things are removed for being political always comes down to the mods' personal tastes, so it's PTB.
Everything is technology, too.
At some point, moderators have to make a call as to what is topical, and OP’s first two posts aren’t even ambgious. Yeah we can wring our hands all day, but TBH they’re barely technology and mostly political.
The thing is it's working because you are coming here to vent about it and there's no "he said, she said, they said". Not blaming you for coming, that is the right move. Each person can independently assess if the mod actions are reasonable or unreasonable.
Automod doesn't change that, and honestly I think automods are needed to relieve the burden on volunteer mods on a growing userbase, even if there will be false positives sometimes. That can be reversed through manual review. If you don't like the decision of those mods, go to an alternate community, especially for news, tech and politics topics, there are plenty out there on the Lemmyverse.
One of the things I wish modlogs had is the ability to respond to them. Sure, that might mean dealing with them being further jackasses in the modlog if they are honestly misbehaving, but isn't that also a possibility on Ye Power Trippin' Bastards?
The admin/mod instance wouldn't even have to allow it to be visible, it could just be visible from their own home instance. If that's an actual problem, the home instance can get involved or just get defederated if it gets to that. It could be toggled as an option from the home instance.
As it is, even Google Maps has better "modlogs". Still fairly easy to simulate, as someone could just action their action in their home instance and include their reply to the actual action there.
Claiming "it's the AutoMod, stupid" is not an excuse. Even an AutoMod can provide better replies than this. What is the actual reason for modlogs if they don't matter anymore? Marketing?
I like that idea because it solves the problem of someone spinning up a dozen communities across several popular instances and repeatedly banning a user and writing defamation in the modlog. Which is a very abusive tactic I've seen used by various individuals.
While I'm an anarchist and I always question authority, most people aren't. Most people implicitly trust mods. So abusing people's trust like that can be very effective as a means of reputational abuse. It's propaganda.
I firmly believe in the principle of habeas corpus, not just as a law, but as an ethical principle for any kind of institutional punishment. Authorities should have to make an actual argument, they should have a body of evidence, when they limit speech.
PTB
Yes.

